# Is Trump's pettiness over Megyn Kelly going to hurt him \[plus Ramos incident\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 25, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891 "2015-08-25T21:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/1 "2015-08-25T21:48:35Z")
Of all the stuff he has done, the fact that he seems so butthurt and petty about Megyn Kelly seems like it might make him come across as too emotionally fragile to be president. Could this be what drops him in the polls, or at this point is it just another thing he has done? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/2 "2015-08-25T21:54:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Could this be what drops him in the polls, or at this point is it just another thing he has done? [Does this answer it?](http://timiacono.com/index.php/2015/08/14/trump-eats-bald-eagle/) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/3 "2015-08-25T21:55:46Z")
If he continues to do well in the polls, he gets to brag about how he was the only candidate smart and courageous enough to take on Fox News and win. If he fails, he gets to brag about how he was so smart and courageous that Fox News had to declare war on him to try and hurt him. It’s a win-win for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/4 "2015-08-25T21:58:35Z")
I’m laughing that he’s complaining that Kelly’s Fox show is too opinionated. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/5 "2015-08-25T21:59:36Z")
Among his supporters, that helps him. Trump doesn’t have smart or non-rancid supporters ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/6 "2015-08-25T22:01:57Z")
It shows how alpha he is for not taking grief from an uppity woman. What is she doing outside the kitchen anyway? Ya can’t stump the Trump! I wonder if this is how the last days of Rome felt. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/7 "2015-08-25T22:03:11Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > I wonder if this is how the last days of Rome felt. +1 ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/8 "2015-08-25T22:13:13Z")
It won’t hurt him with his supporters. They are eating this stuff up. His problem is there’s not enough of them to win the nomination. Sadly it will likely take at least till Feb till the repercussions smack him in the face. The bright side for Megyn Kelly, who’s had to endure this, is she got her best ratings of the year for her return from vacation last night. Trump is “showing” her. If he keeps it up she might be able to renegotiate her contract. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/9 "2015-08-25T22:14:17Z")
I don’t expect Fox News will mind too much about him insulting their reporter. They probably _prefer_ he be insulting one of theirs instead of anyone at any other network, because just reporting the story draws attention (and presumably ratings) back to them. Heck, they’d love a lasting Trump/Kelly “feud”. It helps foster the illusion that they’re evenhanded, and Fox News has long learned the lesson that saying wacky things gets attention, and the best thing a person can do after being called out for saying something wacky is not to apologize, but to say something _even wackier!_ So will Trump start insulting members of Kelly’s family next? She can be the punching-bag Colmes to his blowhard Hannity. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/10 "2015-08-25T22:36:33Z")
[It’s not hurting Megyn Kelly.](http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-kelly-ratings-trump-20150825-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/11 "2015-08-25T23:14:36Z")
Looks like Jorge Ramos gets to join Megyn Kelly on the Trump[career boost train.](https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/watch-fusion-anchor-jorge-ramos-pushed-out-of-donald-trump-press-conference/) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/12 "2015-08-25T23:19:58Z")
It already helped him. For now the only thing that will hurt him is to stop acting the way he does. BTW: Just watched his press conference. He handled it masterfully. Not a single other candidate announced or in the rumor mill for this presidential election could have done as well as he just did. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/13 "2015-08-25T23:43:24Z")
Maybe I misread it. I felt like his not letting the issue go came across as him being very thin skinned and easy to rattle, which are unpresidential qualities. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/14 "2015-08-25T23:50:39Z")
Those are probably things his supporters will spin as being persistent and not letting people walk all over him. These are the same people who howled when Obama bowed to someone else ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/15 "2015-08-26T00:02:36Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It already helped him. For now the only thing that will hurt him is to stop acting the way he does. > > BTW: Just watched his press conference. He handled it masterfully. :dubious: The way he reacted to Gorge Ramos, by kicking him out of the conference, tells me that Trump is scared of losing any control. And then his indecision showed up by realizing later that if he had left Ramos out Trump was not going to look strong but look like a chicken, so Ramos was allowed in later. Then Trump said, “I can’t deal with this,” and soon moved to other reporters’ questions that were less hard for him. I think Sir Robin would be proud. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/16 "2015-08-26T00:20:30Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > :dubious: > > The way he reacted to Gorge Ramos, by kicking him out of the conference, tells me that Trump is scared of losing any control. And then his indecision showed up by realizing later that if he had left Ramos out Trump was not going to look strong but look like a chicken, so Ramos was allowed in later. > > Then Trump said, “I can’t deal with this,” and soon moved to other reporters’ questions that were less hard for him. > > I think Sir Robin would be proud. He handled that guy just right. He kicked him out because the guy was speaking out of turn. Then he let him back in and let the guy talk and the guy was being rude and interrupting Trump. Trump was patient, let the guy talk, answered his questions. Not one of the other candidates could handle someone that well. And at the end when Trump asked the guy whether he has seen a poll, the guy said no, and Trump said he was honest and they’d be friends. Apparently the guy didn’t like that idea, but that just means he was an idiot all. I hate to say it but Trump is the most qualified candidate in the entire field right now. He is competent, he is accomplished, he knows how to get things done, and he’s got enough money that he won’t be in someone else’s pocket. It’s too bad he’s such a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/17 "2015-08-26T00:24:00Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Maybe I misread it. I felt like his not letting the issue go came across as him being very thin skinned and easy to rattle, which are unpresidential qualities. No, I think you read it properly. Your mistake is expecting logic. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/18 "2015-08-26T01:20:14Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > He handled that guy just right. He kicked him out because the guy was speaking out of turn. Then he let him back in and let the guy talk and the guy was being rude and interrupting Trump. Trump was patient, let the guy talk, answered his questions. Not one of the other candidates could handle someone that well. And at the end when Trump asked the guy whether he has seen a poll, the guy said no, and Trump said he was honest and they’d be friends. Apparently the guy didn’t like that idea, but that just means he was an idiot all. > > I hate to say it but Trump is the most qualified candidate in the entire field right now. He is competent, he is accomplished, he knows how to get things done, and he’s got enough money that he won’t be in someone else’s pocket. It’s too bad he’s such a jerk. As I noted in another thread when Obama was running for president the media then made big “guilty by association” reports about a radical priest and other controversial guys, and usually the connections were very thin or non existent. In any case Obama did talk against what those radical guys said or did. Contrast that with Trump joining Joe Arpaio when Trump visited Arizona, never mind that Arpaio was (and is) at that time going to court for contempt of court charges and abuse of power because he bullied even legal residents and citizens. And on top of that both Arpaio and Trump are birthers. Trump is not qualified because he is really the poster boy of wilful ignorance and a crank attractant, [one can only expect very bad results of that weaponized ignorance](http://www.salon.com/2015/07/27/donald_trump_may_be_more_wrong_about_climate_change_than_we_even_realize/). And he is a Jerk too, and the point I made also was that Trump did show indecision by letting Ramos come in again. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/19 "2015-08-26T01:30:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > As I noted in another thread when Obama was running for president the media then made big “guilty by association” reports about a radical priest and other controversial guys, and usually the connections were very thin or non existent. In any case Obama did talk against what those radical guys said or did. > > Contrast that with Trump joining Joe Arpaio when Trump visited Arizona, never mind that Arpaio was (and is) at that time going to court for contempt of court charges and abuse of power because he bullied even legal residents and citizens. And on top of that both Arpaio and Trump are birthers. > > Trump is not qualified because he is really the poster boy of wilful ignorance and a crank attractant, [one can only expect very bad results of that weaponized ignorance](http://www.salon.com/2015/07/27/donald_trump_may_be_more_wrong_about_climate_change_than_we_even_realize/). > > And he is a Jerk too, and the point I made also was that Trump did show indecision by letting Ramos come in again. I don’t like Trump a lot of things about Trump, but you are wrong about the indecision. It shows that he’s mature and fair. He’s trying to attract cranks because he knows he needs their votes, but he is playing with fire and that shows that he’s immature and unfair. So now you’re left with telling me which candidates can show even partial maturity and fairness. I’ll accept Sanders as an answer. Any other answer is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/20 "2015-08-26T01:44:27Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I hate to say it but Trump is the most qualified candidate in the entire field right now. If you’re speaking just of the Republicans, you might be right because it is indeed one incredibly sorry field. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891.md?page=2)