# Is Trump's pettiness over Megyn Kelly going to hurt him \[plus Ramos incident\]

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 25, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891 "2015-08-25T21:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/41 "2015-08-26T15:40:09Z")

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Hey, Starving Artist, give us some more completely incorrect adjectives for Trump. This is fun.

He’s quite hirsute, I’ve hird.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/42 "2015-08-26T15:43:08Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Trump is a counter-puncher. It’s the people who whine that Trump punches back are the ones who are thin-skinned.
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> _Donald hit me. But you hit him first. But he hit me back! That’s not fair. I’m telling Mom._ 😃

Yeah, that works…if you define anything that isn’t 100% support of Trump as a “punch”. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/43 "2015-08-26T15:43:53Z")

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[Ted Cruz just dissed Megyn Kelly](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-ted-cruz-birthright-citizenship) for asking him “mainstream media” questions, which he refused to answer.

So it isn’t just Trump anymore.

But seeing the exchange between Kelly and Cruz, I’m actually starting to develop some respect for her. She tries to pin him down on what his proposals re birthright citizenship would actually mean, and when he tries to evade, she keeps after him.

I just hope she shows the same diligence when she’s interviewing Jeb! and Rubio.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/44 "2015-08-26T15:43:58Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Trump is a counter-puncher. It’s the people who whine that Trump punches back are the ones who are thin-skinned.
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> _Donald hit me. But you hit him first. But he hit me back! That’s not fair. I’m telling Mom._ 😃

Exactly!

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/45 "2015-08-26T15:50:18Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Yeah, that works…if you define anything that isn’t 100% support of Trump as a “punch”. :dubious:

Politics isn’t Tiddlywinks (a type of child’s game). Sometimes, candidates, politicians, media-types, pundits, and voters aren’t very nice to each other.

The “if-one-person-is-offended” style of political correctness doesn’t apply (unless it’s your bull that’s being gored 😉 ).

The claim that Trump is thin-skinned is absurd. But it does give the haters something else to whine about.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/46 "2015-08-26T15:56:33Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Politics isn’t Tiddlywinks (a type of child’s game). Sometimes, candidates, politicians, media-types, pundits, and voters aren’t very nice to each other.
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> The “if-one-person-is-offended” style of political correctness doesn’t apply (unless it’s your bull that’s being gored 😉 ).
> 
> The claim that Trump is thin-skinned is absurd. But it does give the haters something else to whine about.

There’s those other words we’ve been waiting for when someone says something that isn’t 100% supportive: “whine” and “hater”. Someone should put out Right-wing Bingo cards for these threads.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/47 "2015-08-26T15:58:56Z")

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Might as well make ‘LOSER!’ the free space in the center, at least while Trump is in the race.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/48 "2015-08-26T16:05:09Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Indeed, that’s pretty much the definition of thin-skinned.

And a bully. If Trump doesn’t want to be asked about Kelly he needs to get off twitter at 3 am with his tirades and little boy tantrums against her. Misogyny is such a turn off.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/49 "2015-08-26T16:06:40Z")

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> [@Andiethewestie](#):
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> And a bully. If Trump doesn’t want to be asked about Kelly he needs to get off twitter at 3 am with his tirades and little boy tantrums against her. Misogyny is such a turn off.

Not for some, apparently.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/50 "2015-08-26T16:16:45Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Trump is a counter-puncher. It’s the people who whine that Trump punches back are the ones who are thin-skinned.
> 
> _Donald hit me. But you hit him first. But he hit me back! That’s not fair. I’m telling Mom._ 😃

By your definition, whoever responds to a Trump hit is a counter-puncher too.

_Donald hit be. But I hit him back. But he hit first! That’s not fair, says his supporters, you asked him a question!_

FYI, a reporter asking a question is what they’re supposed to do. In this analogy, its not a hit, they are the ones escorting him to the ring.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/51 "2015-08-26T16:21:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> There’s those other words we’ve been waiting for when someone says something that isn’t 100% supportive: “whine” and “hater”. Someone should put out Right-wing Bingo cards for these threads.

Better than a drinking game. I couldn’t afford that much booze.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/52 "2015-08-26T16:25:13Z")

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Trump is no more thin skinned than any other politician. Because he’s not a politician he’s telling you honestly about his feelings. His honesty is what is getting him so much support.

And I have to say I’m quite surprised at the amount of support for Megyn Kelly and Fox News that I’m seeing here. If Trump wasn’t such a hateable guy I think the responses would be quite different.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/53 "2015-08-26T16:36:31Z")

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Is Trump’s pettiness hurting him? Yes- just not among the people,who already like him.

There is no gaffe he can make that will shake the devotion of a hardcore fan. But every gaffe ensures that he can’t increase his base of support beyond hardcore fans.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/54 "2015-08-26T17:45:41Z")

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But it does make that 25 percent or so less available to anyone else.

And meanwhile the GOP “brand” is being defined by this.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/55 "2015-08-26T18:01:11Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Trump is no more thin skinned than any other politician. Because he’s not a politician he’s telling you honestly about his feelings. His honesty is what is getting him so much support.
> 
> And I have to say I’m quite surprised at the amount of support for Megyn Kelly and Fox News that I’m seeing here. If Trump wasn’t such a hateable guy I think the responses would be quite different.

Stuff and nonsense. What he seems to be telling us honestly about his feelings is that he feels being a complete asshole is the best way to go.

Also, one doesn’t have to “support…Kelly” to think that firing off a series of gratuitously insulting tweets _two weeks_ after getting a debate question he didn’t like, seems a bit over the top.

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/56 "2015-08-26T18:16:30Z")

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Let’s get real here.  
Trump knew Ramos was going to try to make a speech.  
Trump knows more about Ramos than Ramos knows about himself.  
Trump was ready for Ramos and Trump’s people knew what was going to happen.  
Trump threw the fucker out on his ear. Ramos had to literally plead to be let back in. Which he did.  
Trump\>game set match. Ramos\>shown to be a fool.  
Guess what’s going to happen the next time Ramos shows up at a Trump presser? GOLD STAR! got it in one! Ramos is a fucking skunk being paid by the Clinton camp. His daughter works for Hillary.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/57 "2015-08-26T18:23:44Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> Let’s get real here.  
> Trump knew Ramos was going to try to make a speech.  
> Trump knows more about Ramos than Ramos knows about himself.  
> Trump was ready for Ramos and Trump’s people knew what was going to happen.  
> Trump threw the fucker out on his ear. Ramos had to literally plead to be let back in. Which he did.  
> Trump\>game set match. Ramos\>shown to be a fool.  
> Guess what’s going to happen the next time Ramos shows up at a Trump presser? GOLD STAR! got it in one! Ramos is a fucking skunk being paid by the Clinton camp. His daughter works for Hillary.

You got his name in there _seven times_- That’s sure to get you a gold star on your name tag at the next rally!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/58 "2015-08-26T18:24:27Z")

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He’s a Trump pumper.

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**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/59 "2015-08-26T18:34:13Z")

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Firstly, let me say I am not a fan of Trump.

I enjoy news conferences, because the speaker has to think on his feet. And they are live. In this exchange with Ramos, Trump handled the situation quite well.

> **[Univision's Jorge Ramos: 'I've never been kicked out of a press conference'](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/08/26/npr-univision-trump)**
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> The anchor of Univision's nightly news was thrown out of a press conference by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump. Ramos said he was just doing his job -- asking questions of the powerful.

In the video, Trump gives examples of bad government and mentions Bush. No first name. Just Bush.

Trump definitely adds some flavor to these elections.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/60 "2015-08-26T18:42:34Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> Let’s get real here.  
> Trump knew Ramos was going to try to make a speech.  
> Trump knows more about Ramos than Ramos knows about himself.  
> Trump was ready for Ramos and Trump’s people knew what was going to happen.  
> Trump threw the fucker out on his ear. Ramos had to literally plead to be let back in. Which he did.  
> Trump\>game set match. Ramos\>shown to be a fool.  
> Guess what’s going to happen the next time Ramos shows up at a Trump presser? GOLD STAR! got it in one! Ramos is a fucking skunk being paid by the Clinton camp. His daughter works for Hillary.

[Go Trump go](http://www.gallup.com/poll/184814/hispanics-frown-trump-not-rest-gop-field.aspx)!

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