# Is Trump's pettiness over Megyn Kelly going to hurt him \[plus Ramos incident\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 25, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891 "2015-08-25T21:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/161 "2015-08-27T21:26:06Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > 1. As long as you brought it up, not two weeks after the fact, I wouldn’t. Maybe not even at the time. Maybe I have some sort of history of complaining bitterly about the unfairness of journalist’s questions on this board, but I don’t think so. I was speaking very generally. I did not mean to imply that you had any history of complaining bitterly about the unfairness of journalist’s questions. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/162 "2015-08-27T21:32:04Z")
> [@camille](#): > > As I said earlier, you really want to believe that Trump didn’t see this [Time Magazine](http://i1.wp.com/fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/150416-ramos-time.png?crop=0px%2C0px%2C1200px%2C630px&quality=80&strip=all&resize=1200%2C630) issue? Because Trump had no interest in who made the list of 100 Most Influential People of 2015? When he was seriously considering running for President. And not notice that the Univision anchor made the cover? > > Right. Right. I also didn’t see it. Not everyone cares about Time magazine as much as you do, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/163 "2015-08-27T21:40:01Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Right. I also didn’t see it. Not everyone cares about Time magazine as much as you do, apparently. You don’t see the irony in this logic, do you. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/164 "2015-08-27T21:41:42Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Since Trump knows that Univision is the one gunning for him, it was a pretty easy guess. Mexican accent plus unprofessional behavior. You don’t know where to stop huh? \*\*camille \*\*linked to Trump also knowing about Telemundo he did dismiss a reporter by mentioning that hispanic network name. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/165 "2015-08-27T22:28:12Z")
> [@camille](#): > > As I said earlier, you really want to believe that Trump didn’t see this [Time Magazine](http://i1.wp.com/fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/150416-ramos-time.png?crop=0px%2C0px%2C1200px%2C630px&quality=80&strip=all&resize=1200%2C630) issue? Well, to be fair, we can’t know, as no one has asked Trump the hardball question “What magazines do you read?”. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/166 "2015-08-27T22:36:17Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Right. I also didn’t see it. Not everyone cares about Time magazine as much as you do, apparently. You must be too busy reading mainstream media like [buzzfeed.com](http://buzzfeed.com), the Utne Reader, GRIT, Gazeta Wyborcza, [thechive.com](http://thechive.com), and TV Guide to keep up with Time, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/167 "2015-08-27T22:59:01Z")
Time and newsweek are mere shadows of their former selves. I used to read 'em all the time but gave up on them years ago. I can see where Trump wouldn’t care about Time or who it finds influential anmore. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/168 "2015-08-27T23:02:58Z")
How would the rightwingverse have reacted if Obama had behaved like this to a Fox news reporter? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/169 "2015-08-27T23:17:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > How would the rightwingverse have reacted if Obama had behaved like this to a Fox news reporter? The same way they react to his waking up in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/170 "2015-08-27T23:22:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Time and newsweek are mere shadows of their former selves. I used to read 'em all the time but gave up on them years ago. I can see where Trump wouldn’t care about Time or who it finds influential anmore. [LOL](http://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Trump_Secretariat-684x513.jpg). Gotta love the irony of you and Terr projecting your own sensibilities on Trump. [Magical](http://time.com/trump/) [thinking](http://www.businessinsider.com/the-new-time-cover-has-a-reality-check-for-america-2015-8). ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/171 "2015-08-28T00:15:38Z")
> [@camille](#): > > [LOL](http://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Trump_Secretariat-684x513.jpg). > > Gotta love the irony of you and Terr projecting your own sensibilities on Trump. [Magical](http://time.com/trump/) [thinking](http://www.businessinsider.com/the-new-time-cover-has-a-reality-check-for-america-2015-8). And? I really don’t get your logic. You think that Trump absolutely has to have seen every issue of Time - because he’s on the cover of one once or twice. How exactly does one follow from the other? ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/172 "2015-08-28T00:38:16Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > And? I really don’t get your logic. You think that Trump absolutely has to have seen every issue of Time - because he’s on the cover of one once or twice. How exactly does one follow from the other? From the [interview](http://time.com/4003734/donald-trump-interview-transcript/) in this month’s Time Magazine with Trump: _Donald Trump was interviewed by TIME Editor Nancy Gibbs, Washington Bureau Chief Michael Scherer, and political correspondent Zeke Miller on Aug. 18._ **Jeb Bush was asked about your comment on “Meet the Press.” You were asked who your foreign policy advisors are and you said you “watch the shows.” He said it’s not enough to watch television. Do you have a response to that?** Well Jeb is a very low energy person. So he can sit around a table all day long with one general and talk and talk and you know. But I see that general as being grilled by you. And when I say I watch on television, I do, and I watch on TIME Magazine, and I watch in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, I read all of them a lot. And I get my views from the media. A lot of the views, and frankly other people do. And the views that you will see during those ten or fifteen minute segments or during reading the story are not a lot different than Jeb sitting around with a policy group, if he really has such a thing. My underline. But of course, he probably missed the issue in April that interviewed the 100 Most Influential People of 2015 - which included people he was running against, and had a Univision guy on the cover - because he wouldn’t care about that, right? I mean, why would a guy who’s about to announce running for President, a known media hound, and someone who has great emnity towards Univision, be interested in reading that? And there is little chance one of his people would bring it to his attention. Besides, SA and Terr didn’t read it, so it’s only logical that Trump didn’t either. Isn’t it obvious, people?!! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/173 "2015-08-28T13:49:13Z")
> [@camille](#): > > …Gotta love the irony of you and Terr projecting your own sensibilities on Trump. (post shortened) Aren’t you projecting your own sensibilities on this issue? 😕 Videos show Ramos interrupting a press conference in order to give a political speech. To heck with media protocol, to heck with the other journalists, to heck with the viewers who tuned in to see Trump answer questions from the media. Ramos the asshole imagines that he’s more important than everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/174 "2015-08-28T13:51:43Z")
From [America Is So in Play - WSJ](http://www.wsj.com/articles/america-is-so-in-play-1440715262) My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!” “He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted. I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.” He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull----.” He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.” ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/175 "2015-08-28T14:01:40Z")
Except, of course, Hispanics do “bloc vote”. In 2012 they went [71-27](http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/) for Obama. Now maybe this one anecdote truly is a harbinger of data, but for now I’ll go with the data. But if you want to hang your hat on what call-in show callers say (as if the folks selecting the calls don’t have a reason to balance out opinions), fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/176 "2015-08-28T14:02:19Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > How are those two roles in conflict? Does having beliefs and advocating for them prevent one from asking good questions of influential people and reporting on the responses? (post shortened) Ramos is hardly a reporter. He’s a political activist. Ramos gave up the title of “reporter” when he became a political activist. I no longer expect Ramos to report ALL of the facts of a story. Ramos can now be expected to spin every story that he covers. He can now be expected to find and quote only those who agree with his version of an event. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/177 "2015-08-28T14:09:02Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Except, of course, Hispanics do “bloc vote”. In 2012 they went [71-27](http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/) for Obama. > > Now maybe this one anecdote truly is a harbinger of data, but for now I’ll go with the data. > > But if you want to hang your hat on what call-in show callers say (as if the folks selecting the calls don’t have a reason to balance out opinions), fine by me. What’s this? 27% did not vote for Obama!!! It’s a long way to Nov 2016. Will the Hispanic “bloc vote” make Bernie Sanders, or Martin O’Malley, or Uncle Joe Biden the Democrat candidate for President? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/178 "2015-08-28T14:16:09Z")
> [@camille](#): > > The unprovoked tweets and retweets he sent out after she came back from vacation was him responding to questions? Interesting perspective. Do you know for a fact that the tweets and retweets were unprovoked? Could they have been in response to face-to-face conversations? Phone calls? Emails? Radio programs? TV shows? Thoughts of you? The media outlets, pundits, and the internet made Kelly’s menstrual cycle the hot topic du jour and the media outlets, pundits, and the internet continue to make Kelly’s menstrual cycle the hot topic du jour. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/179 "2015-08-28T14:24:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > How would the rightwingverse have reacted if Obama had behaved like this to a Fox news reporter? The same way the leftwingverse is reacting to Hillary having goons forcibly escort a pair of transgendered black women who were disrupting Hillary at a recent press conference.\* With a huge yawn. Press conferences aren’t there for people to give lectures to the candidates. Not Ramos, not transgendered black women (who at least seem to be legitimate protesters with a legit cause, as opposed to Ramos who’s clearly there as a political operative who’s there just to be a disruptive dick.) That said, Trump is still a douche who’s obsession with Megyn Kelly’s relatively mild questioning is borderline sociopathic. [Not a great cite, but was the first to come up and I’m pressed for time. I’ve seen the “separate video” that they discuss.](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/27/video-captures-moment-black-transgender-lives-matter-activists-disrupt-hillary-clinton-campaign-stop/) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891/180 "2015-08-28T14:34:00Z")
Polling indicates Trump’s favorability among Latinos is about -50, so the fella in Terr’s link seems to be something of an outlier. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trumps-pettiness-over-megyn-kelly-going-to-hurt-him-plus-ramos-incident/728891.md?page=10)