# Is truth really up for debate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 9, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823 "2013-08-09T18:21:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/81 "2013-08-13T18:25:51Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Yes. . . it is. No…it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/82 "2013-08-13T18:38:06Z")
Yes, it is. No, it isn’t. Yes, it is. No, it isn’t. _I’ve had enough of this shit!_ If you two don’t knock it off and settle down back there, I’m gonna turn this van around and go back home, and both of you can just kiss Disneyland goodbye! You’ll spend the whole damn holiday in your rooms-No Computers!-and I’ve just give these passes to the Friedkins down the street. Czarcasm-Junior Daderator ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/83 "2013-08-13T18:43:38Z")
I offer this counter-example: > [@](#): > > “It’s amazing what a duck can teach you,” Ebbesmeyer says. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/31/eveningnews/main566138.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/31/eveningnews/main566138.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/84 "2013-08-13T19:00:44Z")
To answer the OP: as soon as you can get every single person on earth to agree completely on what “truth” actually IS, then no. It will no longer be up for debate. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/85 "2013-08-13T19:03:10Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > To answer the OP: as soon as you can get every single person on earth to agree completely on what “truth” actually IS, then no. It will no longer be up for debate. But the answer may still be wrong. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/86 "2013-08-13T19:45:44Z")
No it won’t. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/87 "2013-08-13T20:05:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Yes, it is. No, it isn’t. Yes, it is. No, it isn’t. _I’ve had enough of this shit!_ > If you two don’t knock it off and settle down back there, I’m gonna turn this van around and go back home, and both of you can just kiss Disneyland goodbye! You’ll spend the whole damn holiday in your rooms-No Computers!-and I’ve just give these passes to the Friedkins down the street. > > Czarcasm-Junior Daderator Geez, why are you yelling at me? Yog started it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/88 "2013-08-13T20:51:31Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Oh, I don’t know … > > Take, for example, the subjective experience of one’s self. This cannot realy be observed, measured, or tested. At least not in the same way that we might observe a sofa in the living room or measure the right ascension of Vega on May 25, 2013 at 1400Z. But I know of no one, outside schizophrenics experiencing depersonalization, who fails to perceive their own selves as real phenomena of an existing consciousness. It even has a fancy name: _qualia_. What cannot be measured about your self? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823/89 "2013-08-13T21:41:29Z")
The “debate” ended long ago. I am not foisting this off on the Games forum. This thread is closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-truth-really-up-for-debate/665823.md?page=4)