# is USA and UK are the same?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 19, 2005, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562 "2005-05-19T11:52:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/21 "2005-05-19T17:48:50Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Was that meant to be nice or knives

Or naive?

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/22 "2005-05-19T17:52:46Z")

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> [@+MDI](#):
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> Yeah, but you can’t find decent offal in America 😃

You can’t find decent offal anywhere, frankly.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/23 "2005-05-19T17:54:04Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> Plus, you can get good Mexican in the US. Can’t say the same for the UK.

It’s not universal. I can verify that good Mexican food hasn’t found its way to some towns in Indiana. The struggle continues. Then again I’m from Tucson, birthplace of the chimichanga, so I’m a little biased. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/24 "2005-05-19T18:10:50Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Was that meant to be nice or knives

“Nice”.  
Knives are reserved for tourists who visit Orlando.  
😃

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/25 "2005-05-19T18:16:18Z")

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> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> It was a revolution because the colonists _revolted_ against their ruler. You seem to be describing a coup.

Actually, it was more of an _insurrection_. Against the British Impire, one might say. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/26 "2005-05-19T19:25:41Z")

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Colonial secession.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/27 "2005-05-19T19:36:31Z")

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[England](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_America) wasn’t the only one who “ruled” the USA during it’s Colonial period. [France](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonization_of_the_Americas), and [Spain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonization_of_the_Americas) also owned a good deal of the land now known as the United States of America, and several other countries also were involved.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/28 "2005-05-19T20:25:10Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> you can’t get Fish and Chips, yeah that’ll do, you can’t get decent Fish and Chips in America (or London )

I would walk a mile to it if we just had one chippy in this state! I don’t think that would work off the meal itself, but I’d do it nonetheless. How lovely to eat one’s tea out of a rolled up newspaper!

Pardon the tanget but Gawd do I wish we had chippies in the States. Or even Canada.

Hey, perhaps the OP was mistaking Canada for the US? Or the UK? It’s a fair mistake. If you squint your eyes and don’t look too close at foreign policy measures… practically indistinguishable.

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**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/29 "2005-05-19T20:33:58Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> In the UK, a fag is a cigarette.
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> In the US, a fag is a bundle of sticks.
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> Imagine the potential confusion.

It gets even more confusing when you add into the mix the fact that “fag” in the U.K. is also slang for a homosexual, brings a whole new meaning to putting a fag in your mouth and taking a long drag.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/30 "2005-05-19T20:40:30Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Revolutions didn’t come to involve dethroning kings until the French started the practice a few years later, and I seem to recall the US government and the French Revolutionary government tended not to get along very well.

Actually, the first “revolution” was the Glorious Revolution of 1689, in which one king (James II) was in fact dethroned in favour of another (William of Orange). It was largely nonviolent, but definitely a revolution - and a full century before the French.

The American Revolution, IMHO, was a revolt, an isurrection, a succesion or a war of independance, and not a true “revolution”.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/31 "2005-05-19T22:39:11Z")

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> [@mittu](#):
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> It gets even more confusing when you add into the mix the fact that “fag” in the U.K. is also slang for a homosexual, brings a whole new meaning to putting a fag in your mouth and taking a long drag.

I think you just got whoooooshed…

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/32 "2005-05-19T22:42:38Z")

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> [@Celyn](#):
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> Oh, and Canada is a different country too. 🙂

Hey! Quit joking, we’re supposed to be fighting ignorance here!

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**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/33 "2005-05-19T22:48:00Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> I think you just got whoooooshed…

Wouldn’t be the first time and i’m damn sure it won’t be the last ☹

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/34 "2005-05-19T22:50:57Z")

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> [@Celyn](#):
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> Oh, and Canada is a different country too. 🙂

> [@Gangster Octopus](#):
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> Hey! Quit joking, we’re supposed to be fighting ignorance here!

Next thing you know, someone will be claiming that the [pennsylvania dutch](http://www.kerchner.com/padutch.htm) aren’t really descended from immigrants from the Netherlands!

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/35 "2005-05-20T02:58:54Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> You might as well say that Portugal and Brazil are the same thing. I’ve lived in both countries for many years, and have no trouble at all teling them apart.

Well, Portugal was a colony of Brazil in the period 1814-1822, right? 😉

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/36 "2005-05-20T04:01:51Z")

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> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> It was a revolution because the colonists _revolted_ against their ruler. You seem to be describing a coup.

Prince: “Father! The peasants are revolting!”

King: “Yes, right disgusting lot they are.”

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/37 "2005-05-20T04:13:08Z")

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> [@Najee\_online](#):
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> hi dear friends
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> is USA and UK are the same?.. i feel so!
> 
> in starting british people was there in America they rule them for years, dont know how much. so i want to know are they ruling now too or are they both the same?

The force is strong in this one.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/38 "2005-05-20T04:57:46Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> [England](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_America) wasn’t the only one who “ruled” the USA during it’s Colonial period. [France](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonization_of_the_Americas), and [Spain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonization_of_the_Americas) also owned a good deal of the land now known as the United States of America, and several other countries also were involved.

The Netherlands and Sweden, for instance. Yes, I said [Sweden](http://www.answers.com/topic/swedish-colonization-of-the-americas).

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**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/39 "2005-05-20T05:49:47Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> you can’t get Fish and Chips, yeah that’ll do, you can’t get decent Fish and Chips in America (or London )

I guess you haven’t been to the Pacific Northwest… 😉

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-usa-and-uk-are-the-same/304562/40 "2005-05-20T06:12:42Z")

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> [@Small Clanger](#):
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> No. Not ruling … any of the West Indies any more either.

Except for Montserrat, Anguilla, the Cayman Islands, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the British Virgin Islands…

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