# Is Vader CGI in the new Star Wars trailer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 6, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416 "2004-11-06T22:57:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/1 "2004-11-06T22:57:51Z")
If so, will he be CGI is the movie? ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/2 "2004-11-06T23:10:51Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > If so, will he be CGI is the movie? I suspect (from the trailer) they’re going to do a combination of costume, makeup, and a few CGI touches. YMMV. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/3 "2004-11-06T23:14:04Z")
Not sure why’d they bother with CGI. It’s still cheaper to do a guy in a suit. And since all he is supposed to be is a guy in a suit, what would be the point? ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/4 "2004-11-06T23:20:41Z")
All of the Clone Troopers were CGI, even when there was just one or two on screen. I get the feeling a lot of the special effects are done because they can, not for any real reason. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/5 "2004-11-06T23:21:33Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Not sure why’d they bother with CGI. It’s still cheaper to do a guy in a suit. And since all he is supposed to be is a guy in a suit, what would be the point? You don’t really get the genius that is George Lucas , do ya punk? ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/6 "2004-11-07T00:04:29Z")
He is most certainly not. That’s Hayden in the Vader costume. In that shot, Vader is real, and the table he is strapped to is real. But from early “pre-CG” shots I’ve seen, I can confirm that the room around him is fake. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/7 "2004-11-07T02:41:22Z")
In the end Lucas will retroactively CG everything he can lay his hands on. With the giant render farms of Industrial Light and Magic studios at his disposal Star Wars is a big SIM game to him. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/8 "2004-11-07T02:46:27Z")
I’m wondering how much of the wookies are CGI. In the shot in the trailer of two wookies, they look like costumes a la Chewbacca, but the huge shot of all of them cheering looks to be CGI. I don’t mind the wookie army being CGI, but I do hope that if it is one or two onscreen theyare costume’s, because a costume actually looks REAL! Why don’t you understand that, lucas? All of the aliens in episodes IV-VI look 10000000000% better than the ones in I and II. Ugh! CGI indeed! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/9 "2004-11-07T05:12:29Z")
Close-up wookiees are real. They’re the Sydney Kings basketball team under those costumes. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/10 "2004-11-07T05:18:15Z")
God lucas is really ruining the prequel trilogy with all this cgi shit, I especially thought he went crazy on episode II I mean jesus christ its hardly anything but cgi ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/11 "2004-11-07T09:43:30Z")
Hey, give Lucas a break. He’s just trying to advance the state of digital art to 1970s handmade FX. ---
**Author:** ![ShockingAlberto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@ShockingAlberto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShockingAlberto)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-vader-cgi-in-the-new-star-wars-trailer/273416/12 "2004-11-07T10:20:30Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > Hey, give Lucas a break. Sure, I’ll take his left leg.