# Is Venus passing through the Earth's orbit? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 16, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822 "2016-12-16T00:50:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/1 "2016-12-16T00:50:53Z")
At 5pm CT it was south by southwest, about 30 degrees up. Here the temperature this morning was below 0F (way below 0C, proving Europeans are wimps 😉 ), so I’m pretty sure Earth is not inside the orbit of Venus. And I came up with a perfectly reasonable and scientific reason it appears that way, but crossing orbits gives it that Velikovskian touch so missing in modern astronomy. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/2 "2016-12-16T00:57:50Z")
\ 😕 \ Albuquerque! See, I can do it to:cool: :D;) ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/3 "2016-12-16T01:23:04Z")
I was thinking the same thing. It seems to have swung to the south much more than possible. And even stranger, the Max Elongation doesn’t occur until Jan. 12 Something’s going on. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/4 "2016-12-16T02:27:24Z")
whoa, rough day, my apologies to **dropzone** , I fell asleep midpost, must have hit submit while dozing. I meant to also say, your post seems disjointed and lacking sufficient information for a cogent response. For some of us anyway. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/5 "2016-12-16T04:25:30Z")
> [@guestchaz](#): > > whoa, rough day, my apologies to **dropzone** , I fell asleep midpost, must have hit submit while dozing. I meant to also say, your post seems disjoiInted and lacking sufficient information for a cogent response. For some of us anyway. It was three freaking lines! This is fully-jointed for me? Even I can (usually) hold it together that long! 😉 Venus, unexectedly high. While I have been previously drawn to Venus, unexpectedly high to the northwest, I never really thought it was any closer than usual that time. Just saw it as a possible source of UFO sightings. As it is, I have Wife, with a constant planetary chart in her head. “Have you seen where Venus is?” “No, but I know where it is. Ain’t it cool?” Never marry someone smarter than you. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/6 "2016-12-16T05:46:07Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > It was three freaking lines! This is fully-jointed for me? Even I can (usually) hold it together that long! 😉 well, you listed a position, then jumped to temperature, then back to the orbit of venus, considering that I fell asleep midpost, my trouble understanding your OP is on me, even if it didn’t seem like it at the time. When I woke, and saw what had happened, well, my first truncated post read a bit on the assholish side. > [@dropzone](#): > > Never marry someone smarter than you. _now_ he tells me!😉 ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/7 "2016-12-16T07:59:03Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Never marry someone smarter than you. Wouldn’t that mean virtually everybody would be single? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/8 "2016-12-16T09:56:37Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > At 5pm CT it was south by southwest, about 30 degrees up. Here the temperature this morning was below 0F (way below 0C, proving Europeans are wimps 😉 ), so I’m pretty sure Earth is not inside the orbit of Venus. And I came up with a perfectly reasonable and scientific reason it appears that way, but crossing orbits gives it that Velikovskian touch so missing in modern astronomy. Without your latitude there’s no way to comment on whether your observation makes sense or not. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/9 "2016-12-16T10:16:00Z")
We’re heading for Venus And still we stand tall 'Cause maybe they’ve seen us And welcome us all With so many light years to go And things to be found I’m sure that we’ll all miss her so It’s the final countdown ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/10 "2016-12-16T16:46:17Z")
Thanks Gyrate, now I’ve got “doodle-loo-do, doodle-loo-do-do” running in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/11 "2016-12-16T17:02:34Z")
> [@K364](#): > > Thanks Gyrate, now I’ve got “doodle-loo-do, doodle-loo-do-do” running in my head. My assembly team and I always requested that song from the local radio station on their 80’s Night every Friday, right after we came back from our final break. Doodle-loo-do-do-do-do. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/12 "2016-12-16T18:59:14Z")
> [@K364](#): > > I was thinking the same thing. It seems to have swung to the south much more than possible. And even stranger, the Max Elongation doesn’t occur until Jan. 12 > > Something’s going on. [Aliens](http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/158/326/9148130.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/13 "2016-12-17T00:24:50Z")
It’s always aliens with you. And that guy. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/14 "2016-12-17T00:47:56Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Without your latitude there’s no way to comment on whether your observation makes sense or not. 41°52′34″N 88°0′54″W. Or so. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/15 "2016-12-17T01:13:33Z")
Velikovsky and Mars are alright tonight. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/16 "2016-12-17T02:27:40Z")
Oh, did the Velokovsky reference confuse people other than you? This is the Dope, campers. Read a book. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/17 "2016-12-17T02:38:09Z")
My first split-second reaction was “Cool, if Venus crashes into the Earth that’ll solve a lot of our problems!” Followed immediately by “Naah, never happen, darn it.” ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/18 "2016-12-17T03:14:53Z")
> [@digs](#): > > My first split-second reaction was “Cool, if Venus crashes into the Earth that’ll solve a lot of our problems!” Followed immediately by “Naah, never happen, darn it.” Never be afraid to think big! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-venus-passing-through-the-earths-orbit/774822/19 "2016-12-17T18:37:23Z")
But there’s nothing wrong with ideating the death of you, everyone you know, everyone else, and every other species on the planet. And the planet. Or is there? I might need a new shrink. ☹