# Is Weiner finished? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783 "2011-06-08T21:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/321 "2011-06-17T04:22:12Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > Care to try that sentence again? > > Obviously the prudes are the ones who flipped out and demanded his resignation because Weiner flirted and sent pictures of himself to women. The word you’re looking for is normal. Normal people don’t send X-rated images to people they aren’t married to. But if that bothers you don’t vote for Obama and Pelosi next time. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/322 "2011-06-17T04:35:42Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The word you’re looking for is normal. Normal people don’t send X-rated images to people they aren’t married to. > > But if that bothers you don’t vote for Obama and Pelosi next time. Wait! What? How are those two paragraphs related? Are Obama and Pelosi sending out pics too? Please please please link me the Obama ones!. And for the good of humanity please burn the Pelosi ones. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/323 "2011-06-17T04:37:57Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Wait! What? How are those two paragraphs related? > > Are Obama and Pelosi sending out pics too? Please please please link me the Obama ones!. And for the good of humanity please burn the Pelosi ones. If you don’t like normal (IE: Obama and Pelosi) then don’t vote for them because they wanted Weinerhead to resign. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/324 "2011-06-17T04:41:33Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > But if that bothers you don’t vote for Obama and Pelosi next time. I’d LOVE to vote them out! They are colossal disappointments and not just for this (just another straw to add to the camel’s back). But what are my choices? Michele Bachmann? John Boehner? Bad as Pelosi and Obama are I am hard pressed to think of a republican candidate who is better. It’s like I’m being given a choice between two turds and I have to eat one. I do not want either one but when forced I’d have to make a decision and hold my nose while doing it. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/325 "2011-06-17T12:21:12Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Are Obama and Pelosi sending out pics too? Please please please link me the Obama ones!. And for the good of humanity please burn the Pelosi ones. Well, see, that’s the problem there… they’re both in the same pics. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/326 "2011-06-17T12:31:13Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Well, see, that’s the problem there… they’re both in the same pics. I could have gone all day without seeing Pelosi sporting that strap-on… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/327 "2011-06-17T12:32:03Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I’d LOVE to vote them out! They are colossal disappointments and not just for this (just another straw to add to the camel’s back). > > But what are my choices? Michele Bachmann? John Boehner? > > Bad as Pelosi and Obama are I am hard pressed to think of a republican candidate who is better. > > It’s like I’m being given a choice between two turds and I have to eat one. I do not want either one but when forced I’d have to make a decision and hold my nose while doing it. Send a message. Vote Green. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/328 "2011-06-17T16:36:19Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They tried to, yes. But Preibus didn’t say anything about this mess until it had been front page news for at least a week, maybe two. So incredible hypocrisy delayed is not really hypocrisy. Better check your dates. Weiner confessed he sent the photos and wasn’t hacked on the 6th. Preibus was demanding the Dems call for his resignation on the 8th. Two days. Other GOP leaders including Cantor also joined in, all while continuing to support Vitter. When Preibus was on Fox Greta VS had the integrity to ask about Vitter and he just avoided it , while continuing to Bash Democrats. It’s a political game, and the Dems play it stupidly all to often. They were so worried they’d look weak because they failed to get Rangle out. > [@](#): > > Other than Congress not being in session for most of this time, that is. I don’t think Weiner was obliged to quit, but he put himself in this position. The Democrats really had nothing to gain by fighting for him. His behavior was sleazy, and then he tried to bluff and lie his way out of it. Why would they have fought for him? It’s true that Vitter is still hanging around, but his prostitution scandal was years ago. It’s past its sell-by date. And getting into a prolonged argument about Weiner vs. Vitter would not have done the Democrats any good. I’m not suggesting they defend him at all. That would also be politically stupid. IMO, they can just tell the press, and the public the truth about how it works, and they should be more aggressive in calling out the GOP’s hypocrisy, and asking the press to please try and focus on far more relevant issues. Tell them that’s an issue between Weiner, his wife, and the people of his district. We don’t condone his actions in any way, but neither do we want this personal matter to continue to detract from far more important national issues. IOW, show some freakin backbone and actual leadership. Reacting with panic and trying to dispose of it as quickly as possible isn’t doing that. The Vitter scandal may be old news but the GOP’s hypocrisy is very current and needed to be pointed out. > [@](#): > > As the kids say, BFD. yeah, what the hell, it’s not your money. The fact of this expense, and the fact that NYC is losing two districts offered alternative solutions. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/329 "2011-06-17T16:44:36Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > If you don’t like normal (IE: Obama and Pelosi) then don’t vote for them because they wanted Weinerhead to resign. MAybe you can work on voting out the people who supported and still support Vitter while hypocritically calling for Weiner to resign. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/330 "2011-06-17T16:56:33Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > yeah, what the hell, it’s not your money. The fact of this expense, and the fact that NYC is losing two districts offered alternative solutions. New York City isn’t losing two congressional seats. New York State is. The general assumption is that one of the seats will be cut from the City or its suburbs, and one cut from upstate. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/331 "2011-06-17T17:07:19Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > Care to try that sentence again? > > Obviously the prudes are the ones who flipped out and demanded his resignation because Weiner flirted and sent pictures of himself to women. And Clinton got impeached because of a blowjob. Oh no, wait! Clinton was impeached because of perjury and obstruction of justice. The call for Weiner to resign was because he lied to Congressional officials and the public about it. He also made an accusation of a crime but was smart enough not to file a report or press for an investigation which I suspect would have been illegal. Once again, the Dems on SDMB are throwing up strawmen justifying that what Weiner did wasn’t wrong by ignoring what he did do wrong. I just wonder if after Clinton and Weiner they extend the same courtesy to Republicans that do nothing illegal but lie about it \<_cough_ Swarzenegger\> \<_cough_ Bob Livingston\>. Say what you want about David Vitter but at least he was honest about it when the scandel broke. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/332 "2011-06-17T17:26:39Z")
I do exetend the same courtesy to Republicans. I don’t care about ANY of their sex lives, and don’t think it’s relevant to their jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/333 "2011-06-17T17:51:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I do exetend the same courtesy to Republicans. I don’t care about ANY of their sex lives, and don’t think it’s relevant to their jobs. Agreed but what if they lie about it? Same standard for Dems and Reps? Should they lose their office because of the lies? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/334 "2011-06-17T18:54:57Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > New York City isn’t losing two congressional seats. New York State is. The general assumption is that one of the seats will be cut from the City or its suburbs, and one cut from upstate. Noted. The point relevant to this thread is that Weiner could have finished his term and been eliminated by eliminating his seat rather than the expense of a special election for a seat that may not exist. The Dems could have condemned his actions, and still left it up to NY and his district to determine his future. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/335 "2011-06-17T18:56:07Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Agreed but what if they lie about it? Same standard for Dems and Reps? Should they lose their office because of the lies? Don’t we safely assume 80 to 90% are lying already. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/336 "2011-06-17T18:59:21Z")
As long as they don’t get caught lying \*{cough - cough - wide stance - cough} \*… it’s all cool. ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/337 "2011-06-17T20:34:50Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Agreed but what if they lie about it? Same standard for Dems and Reps? Should they lose their office because of the lies? Lying about indiscretions is standard procedure, so no, I don’t really care if they lie. I don’t care what they do in their personal lives in the first place. A politician represents you in the political arena, you don’t get to have a say about their sex life. Nothing Weiner did was illegal, so nothing he did concerns me. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/338 "2011-06-17T20:55:04Z")
And so ends the story of the Capitoline Penis. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/339 "2011-06-17T22:01:49Z")
Anyone have any idea what the shouting was about in the press conference? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/340 "2011-06-17T22:09:55Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > So incredible hypocrisy delayed is not really hypocrisy. No, it’s simply years too late to score any political points with it. > [@](#): > > Better check your dates. Weiner confessed he sent the photos and wasn’t hacked on the 6th. Preibus was demanding the Dems call for his resignation on the 8th. Two days. My bad. > [@](#): > > yeah, what the hell, it’s not your money. I live in New York City, so it probably _is_ my money. > [@](#): > > The fact of this expense, and the fact that NYC is losing two districts offered alternative solutions. From the Democrats’ perspective, Weiner wasn’t worth the fight. It’s true that there wasn’t any consistency in Weiner vs. Vitter, but even if they’d made that point, what would it have accomplished? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783.md?page=18)