# Is Weiner finished? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783 "2011-06-08T21:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/341 "2011-06-17T23:14:37Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, it’s simply years too late to score any political points with it. Pay attention. The Hypocrisy occurred on June 8th. > [@](#): > > I live in New York City, so it probably _is_ my money. or at least 1/8,000,000 of it is. > [@](#): > > From the Democrats’ perspective, Weiner wasn’t worth the fight. I say, AGAIN, it wasn’t about defending or protecting Weiner AT ALL. > [@](#): > > It’s true that there wasn’t any consistency in Weiner vs. Vitter, but even if they’d made that point, what would it have accomplished? It’s the political fight and showing some backbone and leadership. Condemn Weiner’s actions but uphold the process of government. Tell the press and the public that it’s up to Weiner’s conscience, family, and constituents, and NY who will have to pay for a special election. It’s taking the obvious political opportunity to remind voters that the GOP basically condoned and supported the moral failures of their own members. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/342 "2011-06-17T23:20:13Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Pay attention. The Hypocrisy occurred on June 8th. I think my point here was pretty obvious: Vitter’s crimes were years ago. > [@](#): > > or at least 1/8,000,000 of it is. Which isn’t none of it. Although in real life I’m not sure how the election will be paid for. > [@](#): > > It’s the political fight and showing some backbone and leadership. Condemn Weiner’s actions but uphold the process of government. Tell the press and the public that it’s up to Weiner’s conscience, family, and constituents, and NY who will have to pay for a special election. The problem is the same: there was nothing in it for them. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/343 "2011-06-17T23:49:36Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think my point here was pretty obvious: Vitter’s crimes were years ago. Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact of current hypocrisy, concerning Vitter and Ensign. Which is what I said the Dems should address. > [@](#): > > The problem is the same: there was nothing in it for them. I disagree. They are in politics and dealing with it intelligently and with a few cajones, is a positive. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/344 "2011-06-18T00:00:51Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact of current hypocrisy, concerning Vitter and Ensign. Which is what I said the Dems should address. Ensign is out, and his misdeeds had a lot more to do with his ability to hold office. It’s years too late to make any kind of valid point about Vitter. Ultimately, trying to make this point would have been perceived as defending Weiner and it wouldn’t have hurt the Republicans. > [@](#): > > They are in politics and dealing with it intelligently and with a few cajones, is a positive. From their standpoint, they did deal with it intelligently. They did what they could to make sure it couldn’t hurt them politically in the next session. Picking your battles is part of politics. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/345 "2011-06-18T00:31:05Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Anyone have any idea what the shouting was about in the press conference? The loud heckling? That was Benjy Bronk, he’s one of Howard Stern’s people. I have no idea what credentials, if any, were required to be at the conference. If they had restrictions I’d like to know how he got invited, seems journalistic standards are getting pretty low. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/346 "2011-06-18T00:41:35Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > The loud heckling? That was Benjy Bronk, he’s one of Howard Stern’s people. > > I have no idea what credentials, if any, were required to be at the conference. If they had restrictions I’d like to know how he got invited, seems journalistic standards are getting pretty low. Was he asking questions or was it just a prank? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/347 "2011-06-18T00:47:27Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Was he asking questions or was it just a prank? Yeah he was asking questions like “Were you fully erect?” “Are you more than 7 inches” “Do you plan to keep shaving your chest?” Some serious hard hitting journalism no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/348 "2011-06-18T07:05:11Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Ensign is out, and his misdeeds had a lot more to do with his ability to hold office. It’s years too late to make any kind of valid point about Vitter. Ultimately, trying to make this point would have been perceived as defending Weiner and it wouldn’t have hurt the Republicans. > From their standpoint, they did deal with it intelligently. They did what they could to make sure it couldn’t hurt them politically in the next session. Picking your battles is part of politics. This is just redundant now. I don’t agree. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/349 "2011-06-18T07:26:51Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Anyone have any idea what the shouting was about in the press conference? Are you the only one in the country who hasn’t seen Weiners’ jockshot?! **Everybody** knows what the shouting was about! ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/350 "2011-06-18T10:58:21Z")
I heard some of Weiner’s weenie speech. What struck me was how he "had to heal ". Why do these degenerates always cast their actions as someone else’s doing? “Heal” from what? The guy is a degenerate and a pervert. End of story. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/351 "2011-06-18T13:47:03Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I heard some of Weiner’s weenie speech. What struck me was how he "had to heal ". > Why do these degenerates always cast their actions as someone else’s doing? > “Heal” from what? > The guy is a degenerate and a pervert. > End of story. “had to heal” doesn’t mean he’s blaming anyone. I would imagine he’s referring to destructive compulsive behavior. I would say his behavior is kinky. In light of his career monumentally reckless and stupid. Within the last year it would also qualify as some form of cheating on his wife, although he wasn’t sleeping with anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783/352 "2011-06-18T13:49:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Are you the only one in the country who hasn’t seen Weiners’ jockshot?! **Everybody** knows what the shouting was about! Oh, yes, I forgot to thank **boytyperanma** for replying to my query graciously and intelligently. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-weiner-finished/584783.md?page=17)