# Is your car's computer spying on you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 30, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954 "2024-04-30T06:40:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954/21 "2024-04-30T17:23:01Z")
> [@Bayaker](#): > > The insurance company would think I’m driving like a maniac. At ten or fifteen MPH. - Damn senior citizens. _Drives away very fast at a responsible speed._ ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954/22 "2024-04-30T20:25:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > It’s to the point now that when you buy a car, you need to accept a complex software EULA, same as when you install Photoshop or activate an iPhone or whatever. And just as most people scroll down and click OK without reading the terms of service, car buyers are doing the same. This isn’t the first I’m hearing of this so it’s not news to me. What I have read is that certain car manufactures are worse than others. Given a car is the second most expensive thing most people will ever buy I’d like to know what I’m buying. Is there any way to get these T&C ahead of time to review them before buying a car? One gets all the docs for a home purchase in advance to review & decide if you want to go forward with it - is there a HOA, what does it do/govern, etc. From what I’ve heard, Honda is particularly bad. Their T&C might be enough to rule their vehicles out from the get-go, before even bothering to do a test drive or an online configuration to see if I can get what I want from them. I don’t want to have to read a multi-page doc on a infotainment screen _after_ I’ve made settlement. I firmly believe the best way to avoid getting a ticket is to not get pulled over in the first place; however, it’s amazing, it seems every pair of shoes that I own has some lead in the right foot. I _may_, _occasionally_ (but only _very_ occasionally) go over the speed limit but no so fast as to stick out to the guys with guns, badges, ticket books & whoop-de-whoops on their roofs/in their grills but I’m sure to those insurance trackers I’m an absolute menace to society. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954/23 "2024-04-30T20:34:31Z")
Here’s a more recent NYT article about it (gift link): > **[How G.M. Tricked Millions of Drivers Into Being Spied On (Including Me)](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/technology/general-motors-spying-driver-data-consent.html?unlocked_article_code=1.oU0.XCLY.3Sk52PUlRT-G&smid=url-share)** > > This privacy reporter and her husband bought a Chevrolet Bolt in December. Two risk-profiling companies had been getting detailed data about their driving ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954/24 "2024-05-16T08:54:03Z")
> **[Connected cars’ illegal data collection and use now on FTC’s “radar”](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/connected-cars-illegal-data-collection-and-use-now-on-ftcs-radar/)** > > The regulator is warning OEMs to respect data privacy or it will get mad. The feds have politely warned the automotive industry that they may be compelled to issue a stern warning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-your-cars-computer-spying-on-you/1000954.md?page=1)