# Ish, ian etc. New Zealand has no "way" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 13, 2004, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668 "2004-08-13T10:08:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/1 "2004-08-13T10:08:02Z")
The Olympics are starting in a few hours. We shall all strap on our patriotic selves. I love the Olympics. I am one of those wussy types who get all teary at the podium moments. I have one small bother though. If you are from America and you do something good, people can say that is the American way. If you come from France they will say “oh that is the french way of doing things” If you are from Britain…well then you can choose. It can be the British way, the English, the Scots way, the Welsh way or the Irish way. If you come from the Netherlands, you can take pride in your Dutch way of doing things. There is is Indian, Icelandic, Finnish etc New Zealand has no way! You can’t take the New Zealanderish way or the New Zealandarian way or even the New Zealandch way. Are we the only country without a way? I could take the Australian way, the South Afrifican way, the Swiss way, the Bangladeshi way, the Tongan way etc etc But we have no way. Is New Zealand alone? The New Zealand way just sounds dumb. Surely someone else out there who sounds dumb too. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/2 "2004-08-13T10:09:34Z")
other then me obviously. But it does bug me! ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/3 "2004-08-13T10:10:27Z")
The Kiwi way? ---
**Author:** ![marky33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@marky33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marky33)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/4 "2004-08-13T10:13:12Z")
Hong Kong has the same “problem” ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/5 "2004-08-13T10:14:23Z")
“The right way”? Nah. Gotta be “The wrong way”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/6 "2004-08-13T10:14:35Z")
Well maybe that is why we use it so much! Sounds much better the New Zealanderishian. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/7 "2004-08-13T10:15:54Z")
I don’t see what’s wrong with the New Zealand Way, or the Kiwi Way for that matter. Of course, we all know that the Kiwi eats, roots and leaves. That is their way:) ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/8 "2004-08-13T10:22:47Z")
The Kiwi way is always best of course, I just think we were cheated of a “way”. We so need to change our flag. Nout wrong with rooting and leaving either. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/9 "2004-08-13T10:37:06Z")
OMG I’m so, so sorry, Calm Kiwi, I meant of course that the Kiwis eats roots and leaves. Damn comma, just slipped in there somehow 😃 ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/10 "2004-08-13T10:49:02Z")
Some of us root and leave and didn’t take offence at the comma 😃 Hong Kong and New Zealand shall be proudly way-less. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/11 "2004-08-13T13:56:32Z")
Others that are a bit iffy: Barbados (Barbadoan?) Brunei (Bruninnian?) Burkina Faso (Burkina Fasoan?) Chad (Chadian?) Côte d’Ivoire (?) Denmark (Denmarkian) Netherlands (Dutch?) Niger & Nigeria (Are they both Nigerian?) Qatar (Qatarian?) Solomon Islands (Solomon islandian?) United Arab Emirates (UAEan?) United Kingdom (?) Vatican City (?) ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/12 "2004-08-13T14:01:43Z")
You seem to be asking about the New Zealand demonym - you know, people from Canada are Canadians and so forth. Aren’t people from New Zealand “New Zealanders”? Wouldn’t it, therefore, be the New Zealander Way? ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/13 "2004-08-13T14:27:52Z")
The Kiway! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/14 "2004-08-13T15:22:14Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Others that are a bit iffy: > Denmark (Denmarkian) The word you’re looking for is Danish. You know like those things you eat with your coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/15 "2004-08-13T15:26:51Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Others that are a bit iffy: > > Barbados (Barbadoan?) > Côte d’Ivoire (?) > Qatar (Qatarian?) Barbadian Ivorian Qatari New Zealand? Gotta be Sheepish 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/16 "2004-08-13T15:44:39Z")
Very useful page I found … links below: [noun: Chadian(s) adjective: Chadian](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cd.html) [noun: Bruneian(s) adjective: Bruneian](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bx.html) [noun: Burkinabe (singular and plural) adjective: Burkinabe](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/uv.html) [noun: Nigerien(s) adjective: Nigerien](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html) [noun: Emirati(s) adjective: Emirati](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ae.html) [noun: Solomon Islander(s) adjective: Solomon Islander](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bp.html) [noun: Barbadian(s) or Bajan (colloquial) adjective: Barbadian or Bajan (colloquial)](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bb.html) and finally: [noun: New Zealander(s) adjective: New Zealand](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nz.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mathochist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Mathochist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathochist)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/17 "2004-08-13T17:24:23Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > The Olympics are starting in a few hours. We shall all strap on our patriotic selves. I love the Olympics. I am one of those wussy types who get all teary at the podium moments. > > I have one small bother though. > > If you are from America and you do something good, people can say that is the American way. > > If you come from France they will say “oh that is the french way of doing things” > > If you are from Britain…well then you can choose. It can be the British way, the English, the Scots way, the Welsh way or the Irish way. > > If you come from the Netherlands, you can take pride in your Dutch way of doing things. > > There is is Indian, Icelandic, Finnish etc > > New Zealand has no way! You can’t take the New Zealanderish way or the New Zealandarian way or even the New Zealandch way. > > Are we the only country without a way? I could take the Australian way, the South Afrifican way, the Swiss way, the Bangladeshi way, the Tongan way etc etc > > But we have no way. Is New Zealand alone? > > The New Zealand way just sounds dumb. Surely someone else out there who sounds dumb too. This goes back to “what’s the adjectival form?”, which I’m sure has come up before. In particular, one year I lived with two other guys with my first name and in the same department. I was American, another was British, and the last was – what? Ultimately, he said that back in NZ they’d usually use “kiwi” in that place. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/18 "2004-08-13T19:56:46Z")
Your right to have a way was revoked when you started putting beets on burgers. If you stop that abominable practice then we can talk. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/19 "2004-08-13T20:03:38Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Your right to have a way was revoked when you started putting beets on burgers. If you stop that abominable practice then we can talk. Australians also put beetroot on their hamburgers – do they have no Austraian way? ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668/20 "2004-08-13T20:05:18Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > We shall all strap on our patriotic selves. An 18"DHRW&BJD? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ish-ian-etc-new-zealand-has-no-way/259668.md?page=2)