# “ISIL isn’t Islamic”????

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 12, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/isil-isn-t-islamic/698286 "2014-09-12T14:10:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/isil-isn-t-islamic/698286/104 "2014-09-16T03:43:08Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> The real story to me is that British Muslims are so grossly underrepresented in the British military forces.
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> Meaning no disrespect to the British members of this board, but it’s not much of a testament to Britain’s integrating them into society.
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> Certainly in the US minorities aren’t remotely so underrepresented.

Here’s the representation of minorities in the British armed forces(excluding around 4000 Gurkhas) ([https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment\_data/file/310468/quarterly\_personnel\_report\_apr14.pdf](https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/310468/quarterly_personnel_report_apr14.pdf))

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> The number of Black and Minority Ethnic (BME) personnel serving in the UK Regular Forces was 11,200 (representing 7.1 per cent) at 1 April 2014.

Britain, according to wiki, is around 87% white. So minorities are 13% in population, and 7% in the army. Underrepresented, but not so egregious that it causes me to be suspicious of the British armed forces. British Muslims are ~4.5% of the population(wiki), and 0.3% of the armed forces(if the numbers quoted in this thread are correct). This set of facts does not immediately lead me to conclude that Britain is at fault in integrating its minorities, particularly the Muslim one, especially as related to serving members of its armed forces.

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