# Islam cannot coexist with a peaceful world.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 28, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000 "2011-04-28T05:54:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/41 "2011-04-28T14:16:47Z")

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Huh, well waddya know? My secret plans for total world domination and subjugation have been exposed by a Freudian slip.

Curses!

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/42 "2011-04-28T14:18:53Z")

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Are we actually done with this debate now? Can we put this shit to bed and get on with our lives now that we’ve substantiated that the OP’s point is utter bollocks?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/43 "2011-04-28T14:20:33Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > **kanicbird** : This is actually a serious question. Are you aware that your interpretation of the New Testament is not the only interpretation?
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> Was there an answer to this question?

Yes, there is:

[list=a][li] **kanicbird** is not aware that there are other interpretations of the New Testament.[/li][li] **kanicbird** is aware that there are other interpretations of the New Testament.[/list][/li]

> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I have to say that I have learned a lot about the scriptures from debating here the learning is ongoing (which btw should answer your question).

That’s not even close to answering the question.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/44 "2011-04-28T14:22:23Z")

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I think **kanicbird** is ignoring me. Now I’m sad. ☹

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/45 "2011-04-28T14:23:35Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [list=a][li] **kanicbird** is not aware that there are other interpretations of the New Testament.[/li][li] **kanicbird** is aware that there are other interpretations of the New Testament.[/list][/li]

I don’t think he’s a big fan of koans. 😃

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/46 "2011-04-28T14:28:03Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> I think **kanicbird** is ignoring me. Now I’m sad. ☹

Go have yourself a cookie, cookies makes everything better 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/47 "2011-04-28T14:32:14Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> You mean this one: [http://www.islamicblog.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Islam\_religion\_of\_peace\_by\_karbala\_style.jpg](http://www.islamicblog.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Islam_religion_of_peace_by_karbala_style.jpg)

I don’t doubt that some Muslims, perhaps even whole groups of Muslims, use ‘Religion Of Peace’ as a slogan. But is there any evidence for those specific people or groups using it, not living up to it?

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/48 "2011-04-28T14:41:14Z")

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Now that I think about it, “Religion of Peace” is actually kinda catchy. I may have that put on a t-shirt in a funky font, then wear it as I subjugate some unbelievers and generally get all up in their business.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/49 "2011-04-28T14:41:38Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I don’t doubt that some Muslims, perhaps even whole groups of Muslims, use ‘Religion Of Peace’ as a slogan. But is there any evidence for those specific people or groups using it, not living up to it?

I don’t know. It was just more of a comment of the use of a slogan that was so wee known that is comparable to advertising slogans, which no other religions seem to have, and advertisement by it’s nature tries to influence behavior by using slogans (among other things), to create associations that generally don’t exist naturally.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/50 "2011-04-28T14:45:28Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> I know the only thought harbored in your mind is that of my total submission. Oh yeah, I can totally imagine it already, me all strapped and tied, defenseless to your very evil ways.

_Bow CHICKA bow wow…_

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/51 "2011-04-28T14:45:32Z")

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> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> Now that I think about it, “Religion of Peace” is actually kinda catchy. I may have that put on a t-shirt in a funky font, then wear it as I subjugate some unbelievers and generally get all up in their business.

Do it in Arabic, then wear it through your TSA screening. You might make the big buck settlement.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/52 "2011-04-28T14:46:02Z")

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I reckon it’s a fairly safe bet that those taking the trouble to subscribe to that slogan are likely to be compatible with a peaceful world.

Or else they’re up to something, but neither way does that really seem to be saying anything about Islam as a whole, which is perhaps the point. The more you generalise, the less accurate you get.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/53 "2011-04-28T14:46:40Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Go have yourself a cookie, cookies makes everything better 🙂

Checks to see if we’re in the pit. Holds tongue.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/54 "2011-04-28T14:54:54Z")

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> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> Now that I think about it, “Religion of Peace” is actually kinda catchy. I may have that put on a t-shirt in a funky font, then wear it as I subjugate some unbelievers and generally get all up in their business.

As an unbeliever, can you buy me dinner first? 😃

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/55 "2011-04-28T14:55:41Z")

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Of course, but no booze or pork 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/56 "2011-04-28T15:17:42Z")

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> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> Of course, but no booze or pork 🙂

And best stay out of Bodeans. 😉 \*

- Amusing back story: Some years ago now, **Bib** and I and two other male Dopers who shall remain nameless had lunch at a very nice BBQ place in Soho. At some point during the lunch it was learned that the waitress had assumed that we were two gay couples rather than four straight men, although we never did find out how she had mentally paired us off…

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/57 "2011-04-28T15:25:40Z")

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You just made me laugh out loud at my desk. And now I have a hankering for BBQ beef ribs, dammit! Oh, and apparently the waitress thought I was gay because I was “well-groomed”. :dubious: 😕

So wait, are \*\*Tristan \*\*and **Capitaine Zombie** both guys who are yearning for me to subjugate them?

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/58 "2011-04-28T15:28:40Z")

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> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> So wait, are \*\*Tristan \*\*and **Capitaine Zombie** both guys who are yearning for me to subjugate them?

Not in so many words.

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/59 "2011-04-28T15:30:23Z")

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So you’re a lady who’s yearning for me to subjugate her? 😃

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-cannot-coexist-with-a-peaceful-world/580000/60 "2011-04-28T15:44:57Z")

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> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> So you’re a lady who’s yearning for me to subjugate her? 😃

Darn dude, I’m a man. And your well groomed looks clearly indicate you’re no innocent when it comes to the same sex domination game (which is an alternate translation for “Religion of peace” in Arabic. You know how Arabic can be translated wildly, just look at Kaddhafi/Ghaddafi/KaDuffy and on and on…).

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