# Islam/Judaism/Christianity Venn diagram -- assistance needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 16, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592 "2004-03-16T05:23:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/1 "2004-03-16T05:23:56Z")
MrWhatsit is working on a [Venn diagram](http://www.sdcoe.k12.ca.us/score/actbank/tvenn.htm) that displays Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. So what he needs is to be able to include commonalities between each pair of religions that are not shared by the third. For instance, the Judaism-and-Islam-but-not-Christianity portion of the diagram could include, “Does not eat pork”; “men cover hair when praying”, and so forth. He’s having some trouble with the Christianity-and-Islam-but-not-Judaism section; does anyone have any suggestions? Feel free to throw out suggestions for the other parts of the diagram as well. And, before anyone asks, he’s working on it as a learning aid for the junior high kids he’s teaching right now. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/2 "2004-03-16T05:47:08Z")
All three: the Bible (the Qu’ran is supposed to be the last chapters, rather than an outright replacement), a unitary higher power, angels (Gabriel, at least, is common to all three), revelations on a hill (the Sermon of the Mount, the passing down of the Commandments, and the Archangel’s revelation of the Word to Mohammed on Mount Sinai, (I think)), geographic proximity obviously. Christianity/Islam: Heaven and hell… I don’t exactly understand the specifics of the Jewish conception of the afterlife, but if I’m getting this right, there isn’t one(?) That’s all I got, really. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/3 "2004-03-16T05:51:48Z")
In both Islam and Christianity, Christ is recognized as a holy figure. ---
**Author:** ![Spezza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Spezza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spezza)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/4 "2004-03-16T05:53:06Z")
> [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > All three: the Bible (the Qu’ran is supposed to be the last chapters, rather than an outright replacement) According to Islam, Muhammad is the Seal of the Prophets, and as such the Qur’an is the final word. As Jesus annulled the Jewish dietary laws, so too does Muhammad’s revelation replace previous scriptures (according to Islam). ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/5 "2004-03-16T06:13:49Z")
> [@](#): > > He’s having some trouble with the Christianity-and-Islam-but-not-Judaism section That is not surprising since Islam and Christianity will have the smallest overlap. In addition to the points made: Each has a Scripture that goes beyond (in their view) the Jewish Tanakh (although their scriptures, themselves, do not overlap). (Connected to the previous point) Each recognizes prophecy and Divine Revelation beyond that recorded in the Jewish Tanakh. Christianity and Islam are both missionary religions that command believers to proselytize (to greater or lesser degrees) while Judaism does not engage in proselytization. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/6 "2004-03-16T15:49:24Z")
Thanks, guys! This is all very helpful and I’ll be passing it along to MrWhatsit (who, blessedly, had a snow day today). ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/7 "2004-03-16T16:21:59Z")
> [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > I don’t exactly understand the specifics of the Jewish conception of the afterlife, but if I’m getting this right, there isn’t one(?) Incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/8 "2004-03-16T17:51:24Z")
> [@IzzyR](#): > > Incorrect. Um… are you going to elaborate on that one? ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/9 "2004-03-16T18:20:28Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > In both Islam and Christianity, Christ is recognized as a holy figure. Got to be careful about that word “holy.” Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God and was the Savior. Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet of God but not of divine nature nor a savior. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/10 "2004-03-16T18:38:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Christianity/Islam: Heaven and hell… I don’t exactly understand the specifics of the Jewish conception of the afterlife, but if I’m getting this right, there isn’t one(?) [Jewish afterlife beliefs](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=125741) [Question About Judaism…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241432) [do jews go to heaven?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=44771) ---
**Author:** ![DevilDan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DevilDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DevilDan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-judaism-christianity-venn-diagram-assistance-needed/234592/11 "2004-03-17T03:51:48Z")
Of course, from the Islamic point of view, Islam replaces or absorbs the two prior monotheisms of Judaism and Christianity. You’d be looking at three (nearly) concentric circles. This may seem irreverent, but you can actually think of Islam as Judaism Version 3 (which makes Christianity Judaism Version 2). Or maybe Babylonian Mythos Version 8.3b.