# Islam would be crushed in a war against the west

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 12, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916 "2016-01-12T10:52:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/281 "2017-01-26T10:59:26Z")

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It’s clowns like **Blinkyandpinky** that at times make it really embarrassing to be a conservative. My only consolation is that liberals have their embarrassments too.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/282 "2017-01-26T11:20:53Z")

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To be fair, our embarrassments generally aren’t in positions of national power with the full backing of the party.

(Okay, okay, Harry Reid…)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/283 "2017-01-26T12:09:03Z")

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Well, the Trump administration certainly appears to have declared war on Muslims (metaphorically speaking). But he’s not worried about [riling them up](http://time.com/4649681/donald-trump-interview-crowd-size-voter-fraud-torture/):

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> On the impact of his considered proposals to limit immigration from some Muslim-majority countries and to suspend the U.S. refugee program, Trump argued it couldn’t exacerbate tensions in the Muslim community, because they’re already so high.
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> “There’s plenty of anger right now. How can you have more? … The world is a mess. The world is as angry as it gets. What? You think this is gonna cause a little more anger? The world is an angry place.”

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/284 "2017-01-26T12:09:40Z")

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I’m trying to understand the sheer lack of perspective a person has to have to believe an insane statement like that.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/285 "2017-01-26T12:20:08Z")

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It sounds like an incoherent version of a common right wing idea; that Muslims already hate us as much as it’s possible to hate, with no reason beyond being Muslim for that hate; so nothing we do can make it worse. Therefore, we might as well do anything we please to them.

Also, I’m amused at the idea that the “civilized” world could kill over a billion people and still count as civilized.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/286 "2017-01-26T13:23:09Z")

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For what it’s worth, I’d also like to congratulate the OP for the accuracy of his prediction. I clearly underestimated the growing extent of the American sadomasochistic impulse.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/287 "2017-01-26T13:32:44Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I am like Nostradamus compared to the bubble inhabiting, ignorant, reality denying and brainwashed, angry liberals that live on this site.
> 
> More of what I predicted will be coming true soon, and there’s not a single thing that any liberal in the world can do to stop this, and that makes me very glad.
> 
> Have a nice day.

Well, can’t argue with that. Nostradamus was full of shit as well.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/288 "2017-01-26T14:19:38Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> …

Fuck off, Nostradumbass.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/289 "2017-01-26T15:00:22Z")

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‘Islam’ vs ‘the west’. I can’t really even grasp what that’s supposed to mean - it’s like “Which is better - Apples or November?”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/290 "2017-01-26T15:36:28Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> ‘Islam’ vs ‘the west’. I can’t really even grasp what that’s supposed to mean - it’s like “Which is better - Apples or November?”

Chocolate syrup, OBVIOUSLY. Anybody says different is an imbecile.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/291 "2017-01-26T16:33:14Z")

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Chocolate syrup on apples in November.

How about those apples?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/292 "2017-01-26T16:39:30Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I am here to congratulate myself for being correct in my predictions, and I am here to congratulate the King Emperor and savior of Western civilization, Donald Trump for winning the election, just like I said that he would.
> 
> I am like Nostradamus compared to the bubble inhabiting, ignorant, reality denying and brainwashed, angry liberals that live on this site.
> 
> More of what I predicted will be coming true soon, and there’s not a single thing that any liberal in the world can do to stop this, and that makes me very glad.
> 
> Have a nice day.

You just can’t keep a good vomit down.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/293 "2017-01-26T23:15:59Z")

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America could barely sustain serious military campaigns in two countries and Europe can’t even bomb third-rate powers without leaning on America for help with refueling and buying extra bombs. The West is welcome to try, though.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/294 "2017-01-26T23:34:14Z")

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I, for one, agree that starting a war with 1.6 billion people would have no blowback at all for us, and would be an overall swell idea.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/295 "2017-01-26T23:38:43Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fuck off, Nostradumbass.

Oh! Such edginess.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/296 "2017-01-27T00:34:35Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I am here to congratulate myself for being correct in my predictions, and I am here to congratulate the King Emperor and savior of Western civilization, Donald Trump for winning the election, just like I said that he would.
> 
> I am like Nostradamus compared to the bubble inhabiting, ignorant, reality denying and brainwashed, angry liberals that live on this site.
> 
> More of what I predicted will be coming true soon, and there’s not a single thing that any liberal in the world can do to stop this, and that makes me very glad.
> 
> Have a nice day.

> [@Monty](#):
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> Nice day isn’t on the agenda with that lunatic in the White House. And you’re a fool to pretend he’s a good choice for such a high office, or any office for that matter.

A fool who hates America, at that. Thanks for outing yourself to those of us who don’t.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/297 "2017-01-27T10:01:01Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> A fool who hates America, at that. Thanks for outing yourself to those of us who don’t.

You’re referring to blinks, right?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/298 "2017-01-27T19:09:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh! Such edginess.

Best to remove all lingering doubt with regards to unwanted behaviour.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/299 "2017-01-27T21:48:01Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’re referring to blinks, right?

That was my understanding of it, yes. I don’t think he was referring to you.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islam-would-be-crushed-in-a-war-against-the-west/742916/300 "2017-02-01T18:49:27Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’re referring to blinks, right?

Sorry for the delayed response. Yes, referring to blinks (who, btw, I would prefer if people would refrain from quoting. There’s a reason I have him on “Ignore”).

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