# Islamic sects **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 6, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937 "2015-04-06T02:51:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/61 "2015-04-07T09:54:52Z")
> [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > … LIBERALS AND THEIR NAIVE BELIEFS… Which aren’t to be confused with completely rational Christian beliefs like virgin birth, water walking and resurrections. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/62 "2015-04-07T11:34:36Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Hay guis I have an idea, let’s exterminate 1,570,000,000 people, the vast majority of them completely innocent of any crime, because _they’re_ intolerant. Well, you gotta break some eggs to make…things with broken eggs. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/63 "2015-04-07T12:21:52Z")
> [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > I am a jew by race but a christian by faith.Christianity is not a religion but a reality.The isms of this world whether they be a organized religion or a politcal system are all false doctrines and only institute the confusion in this world. > The bible does not prescribe mankinds religions even the so called christian religions who say they are christian but are liars.I do not sit on the fence, I have chosen a side to stand on. > I am against these lies, GLOBAL WARMING, THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, ALL THE FALSE RELIGIONS OF THIS WORLD AND THEIR CLERGY, LIBERALS AND THEIR NAIVE BELIEFS > > , ATHEISTS AND GLOBALISTS, THE U.N. AND THE EUROPEAN UNION > Most who have commented on my last rant as most of you felt it was are fence sitters and are to blind to see your own enemy before your eyes. > A religion that practices totalitarian tactics is your enemy Oh, you’re fucking insane. Why didn’t you just say so? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/64 "2015-04-07T12:23:05Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Which aren’t to be confused with completely rational Christian beliefs like virgin birth, water walking and resurrections. Talking snakes… Don’t forget the talking snakes! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/65 "2015-04-07T13:09:46Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > See that big white space between “BELIEFS” and “, ATHEISTS”? I’m pretty sure there is a onspiracy to shut you up and shut you down, and the LIBERALS who run the SDMB edited out the rest of your list. > > Don’t let them and their naive beliefs win! Give us the three lines of missing text so we can know what else besides the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA and GLOBALISTS and such that we must learn to hate! They stole your “C” in “onspiracy” too! they are onto you **CairoCarol**! Run! run efore it’s too late! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/66 "2015-04-07T13:19:19Z")
[Speaking of terrorists . . .](http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/) ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/67 "2015-04-07T13:41:30Z")
Is it OK if I just go ahead and hate everybody? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/68 "2015-04-07T14:18:51Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Is it OK if I just go ahead and hate everybody? The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles. Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch. And I don’t like anybody very much! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/69 "2015-04-07T14:22:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Oh, you’re fucking insane. Why didn’t you just say so? Pretty sure he did. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > Sheites, Sunnies,islamic miltants, fundementalist muslims, alqueda, hezbollah, fatah, hamas and the list goes on.They are one and they are all a malignacy to mankind. > Islam threatens all of us who do not belong to its generation.It is time for western civilization to declare total war against this unholy religion called Islam. > The west is in denial and must look at islam as an enemy to our western culture. > They are totalitarian and tolerate only islam, so wake up christian nations and put on your armor so we can stand and defeat this cancer that professes they are the only organization on this world who stand for God.Islams god is Satan the god of force who opposes Jesus and our christisn beliefs. > Time for every christian soldier to stand against the anti Christ religion called Islam. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/70 "2015-04-07T16:54:42Z")
For shits and giggles, because we’ve not parsed this sort of rant in what seems like ages: > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > I am a jew by race… No you’re not. Judaism is a religion, arguably an ethnicity in some cases. But not “a race”. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > …but a christian by faith. Whatever floats your ark. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > Christianity is not a religion but a reality. It’s a religion. One of many. That’s the extent of it’s reality. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > The isms of this world whether they be a organized religion or a politcal system are all false doctrines and only institute the confusion in this world. You know what’s even more confusing? SCIENTISM and all those books. Who has time to read and understand any of that?! Amarite?! > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > The bible does not prescribe mankinds religions even the so called christian religions who say they are christian but are liars. You say you are Christian. How do we know you’re not a liar? > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > I do not sit on the fence, I have chosen a side to stand on. I hope it’s not the neighbor’s side. They’ll sick the dog on you. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > I am against these lies, GLOBAL WARMING, THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, ALL THE FALSE RELIGIONS OF THIS WORLD AND THEIR CLERGY, LIBERALS AND THEIR NAIVE BELIEFS, ATHEISTS AND GLOBALISTS, THE U.N. AND THE EUROPEAN UNION You must not have a friend in the world. Perhaps all you need is a hug? > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > Most who have commented on my last rant as most of you felt it was are fence sitters and are to blind to see your own enemy before your eyes. I think we can all agree that Donald Trump is the real enemy before our eyes. > [@THE\_ELECT](#): > > A religion that practices totalitarian tactics is your enemy. You don’t say?.. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/71 "2015-04-07T20:22:43Z")
THE ELECT, a question: When you post these rants, has anybody ever sincerely replied along the lines of “I see your point. I’ve been blind all these years and didn’t realize it. You have inspired me to change my life.”? Have you ever managed to HELP anybody? Have you inspired anybody to forsake their religion and become Christian? Do you think you ever will? Do you think these rants do any good, or are they a safe way to make you feel spiritually superior to the world outside your door? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/72 "2015-04-07T21:22:58Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > THE ELECT, a question: When you post these rants, has anybody ever sincerely replied along the lines of “I see your point. I’ve been blind all these years and didn’t realize it. You have inspired me to change my life.”? > > Have you ever managed to HELP anybody? Have you inspired anybody to forsake their religion and become Christian? Do you think you ever will? Do you think these rants do any good, or are they a safe way to make you feel spiritually superior to the world outside your door? It might help to consider the extreme-Calvinist theological views of the [Westboro Baptists](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Theological_views): > [@](#): > > - The elect are the people whom God has foreordained to salvation. All others are reprobates, who have been created for the express purpose of being sent to Hell. This is the Calvinist belief of unconditional election, a.k.a. “double predestination,” which is a form of determinism; it explains why the Westboro Baptist Church protests aren’t about proselytizing. The intent of their protests is to thank God for smiting us. > - Those whom God chooses to condemn, he causes to sin by “hardening their hearts” against himself. > - It is the duty of the elect to proclaim God’s word (even though God will not cause the reprobates to listen). Their goal is not to win converts, or to “save” others, but simply to rebuke others for their sins. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/73 "2015-04-07T21:50:43Z")
From quote above: Those whom God chooses to condemn, he causes to sin by “hardening their hearts” against himself. Sounds like a rigged game. Only a bastard-ass god would pull such a stunt. I would totally support the other side against such an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/74 "2015-04-08T02:44:00Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > They stole your “C” in “onspiracy” too! they are onto you **CairoCarol**! Run! run efore it’s too late! It’s horrifying! Where will we e without the letter " " and " "? Regards, airo arol ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/75 "2015-04-08T03:35:22Z")
Well he’s won me over, bloody EU! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/76 "2015-04-08T03:41:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Sounds like a rigged game. Indeed. “God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won’t tell you the rules, and who smiles _all the time._” –Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/77 "2015-04-08T03:42:37Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Catholics call themselves Christians. No shit. Did anyone here say they weren’t? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/78 "2015-04-08T03:47:05Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > It’s horrifying! Where will we e without the letter " " and " "? > > Regards, > airo arol Where will we be?! Buried deep in your unt! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/79 "2015-04-08T03:55:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > No shit. Did anyone here say they weren’t? Michelangelo was painting the roof of the Sistine Chapel, and got bored, lying on his back on the scaffold, and he looked down and saw an old woman praying at the altar. Feeling like some fun, he shouted, “I am Jesus Christ!” The woman didn’t even look up. “I am Jesus Christ!” The woman didn’t even look up. “I am Jesus Christ! Listen to me and I will perform miracles!” The woman finally looked up. “Hey, You, shuddupa You mouth! I’m a-talkin’ to You Momma!” So, yes, Catholics do call themselves Christians, falsely. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/islamic-sects/716937/80 "2015-04-08T05:09:34Z")
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