# Israel and any Future Holocaust

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 13, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035 "2016-01-13T15:16:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/81 "2016-01-26T21:03:06Z")

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Technically speaking, “never again” means retaliation _before_ the fact.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/82 "2016-01-26T21:05:37Z")

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Taliation?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/83 "2016-01-26T22:27:56Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Technically speaking, “never again” means retaliation _before_ the fact.

> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Taliation?

More like “pretaliation”.

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**Author:** ![Jayhawker\_Soule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@Jayhawker\_Soule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayhawker_Soule)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/84 "2016-01-26T23:40:26Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Technically speaking, “never again” means retaliation _before_ the fact.

Nonsense. Nor is prophylaxis abortion before the fact.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/85 "2016-01-27T02:33:01Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> More like “pretaliation”.

Grin! Winner!

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/86 "2016-01-27T02:58:05Z")

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Whatever happened to Preemptive attack?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/87 "2016-01-27T03:36:41Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> Whatever happened to Preemptive attack?

Dick Cheney.

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/88 "2016-01-27T04:00:06Z")

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With a shotgun?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/89 "2016-01-27T08:36:52Z")

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In the conservatory.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/90 "2016-01-28T13:18:17Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> With a shotgun?

Since you’ve returned to the thread, let me ask again:

What the hell point are you trying to make with your insistence that nothing you do or say can be construed as anti-Semitic?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-any-future-holocaust/743035/91 "2016-02-21T08:10:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Perpetrated against _anybody? Anywhere?_
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> Well I’m certainly on board with that.
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> That _IS_ the policy, right?

> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Certainly any reasonable country’s broad humanitarian policy would be against genocide, but it’s probably obvious that when we’re talking about the _Shoah_, we are not talking about an “anybody, anywhere” type of situation. That’s obvious, right?

(Sorry for my delinquency in returning to the thread)

Not entirely. And I’ve always harbored the notion that “NEVER AGAIN” was informed not only by the statement _“This obscenity was perpetrated against our people once; therefore, NEVER AGAIN”_, but also by _“This kind of behavior was an obscenity, and will always be one, no matter the perpetrators, no matter the victims; therefore, NEVER AGAIN”_.

Not as a promise to rescue the world, but one to support those who find themselves with the task of doing so, and to oppose and confound any future would-be perpetrators, at least.

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