# Israel-UAE Agreement **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031 "2020-08-13T23:55:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/61 "2020-10-23T16:10:02Z")
It’s happening now. Now for the white whale of Saudi Arabia. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/62 "2020-10-23T21:40:15Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > The Palestinian Authority, having gotten zero traction from the Arab league after their complaints, have even rescinded their opposition to the deal. Amazing. > > …_PA President Mahmoud Abbas said that only Israel’s withdrawal from occupied territories can bring peace to the Middle East._ > > \*“Peace, security, and stability will not be achieved in the region until the Israeli occupation ends,”… ‘The Israeli occupation’ as they consider it is not just Palestine. I don’t believe they’ll be satisfied until the Israelis are out of the Middle East entirely. But they’ll happily take Palestine back for now. It puts them one step closer to their goal. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/63 "2020-10-24T08:50:35Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > I never got the impression Middle Easterners and especially Israelis were particularly timid about travel for the purpose of business or tourism. > > [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogZcBk88dw) is an Israeli song from 1958 called “To the Red Rock” about a group of tourists who hike to Petra and get shot for their trouble. So, naturally, it was censored for supposedly inspiring many Israelis to make the trip. As the first and last verse of the song go: _Beyond the mountains and the desert_ _Legends say there is a place_ _From which no man has returned alive_ _And its name is the Red Rock_ _Oh… the Red Rock_ The song was written during a time of extreme tension between Israel and Jordan, where both sides would shoot anyone crossing the border on sight. The Red Rock, AKA Petra, AKA those ancient ruins from _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_, became the Holy Grail (hah!) for Israeli hikers and adventurers. Many tried to get there, and some never returned. Anyway, Israelis really love to hike and travel. Comes from living in a small country, I guess. I’ve never met an Israeli who’s never been abroad, and I’m sure there are people in India, Thailand, Greece, Peru and many other places who are convinced that my country has at least ten times the population it actually does, based solely on the number of backpackers and tourists. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/64 "2020-10-24T21:35:36Z")
To some extent. But _every_ hostel I’ve ever stayed at has a group of Australians. Every ski hill has dozens working. It’s a wonder there are any left back in Oz. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/65 "2020-10-25T16:52:28Z")
With Sudan , they agreed to pay for their involvement in terror attacks. What I like about these agreement is that it gets the US less involved if not totally out of the Middle East. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/66 "2020-10-25T19:08:26Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > What I like about these agreement is that it gets the US less involved if not totally out of the Middle East. Between petroleum, anti-Western groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, and the lack of resolution to the Palestinian issue, even if Israel’s relations with some of their neighbors improves, the U.S. is going to be deeply involved in the Middle East for a long, long time to come. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/67 "2020-10-26T01:05:27Z")
As far as the petroleum issue, we are out of the Middle East , the treaties don’t involve the US , it’s between the players. As far as the Palestinians, they had been approached but said no. As long as Hamas and Hezellah are holding out , that’s between the ME players. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/68 "2020-10-26T01:17:30Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > As far as the petroleum issue, we are out of the Middle East Incorrect. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, we import 960,000 barrels of oil per day from Persian Gulf countries, accounting for 11% of our total imports. Almost half of our oil imports are now from Canada, but we are _not_ “out of the Middle East” when it comes to oil. > **[Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)](https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6)** > > Energy Information Administration - EIA - Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031/69 "2020-10-26T12:18:43Z")
Ok , but we don’t totally rely on it as we used to. All in all these agreements are good for the area. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-uae-agreement/918031.md?page=3)