# Israelis Illegally Taking Arab Land and Restricting Acess?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 28, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israelis-illegally-taking-arab-land-and-restricting-acess/713866 "2015-02-28T18:18:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israelis-illegally-taking-arab-land-and-restricting-acess/713866/61 "2015-03-03T21:17:55Z")

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> [@barbitu8](#):
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> You can’t be serious? The posts say that Israel is setting up tactics and roadblocks for the Palestinians to access their land, and that, consequently Israel considers that land abandoned and occupy it. So the answers are yes and yes.

Agreed. Even many of Israel’s best friends acknowledge there have been offenses. The Israeli Supreme Court has ruled against a number of seizures.

There is a reasonable debate over how big and how bad the problem is, but there certainly is a problem. One of the first things a peace conference needs to do is establish clearly-defined borders.

I also want a winning lottery ticket…

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israelis-illegally-taking-arab-land-and-restricting-acess/713866/62 "2015-03-04T06:21:41Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Also, even among those who honestly do want a stable and peaceful solution, how many (on either side) are willing to accept a result that the other side could possibly agree to? Even if all the extremists died tomorrow, could even the moderates find a way past the question of the Right of Return or the status of Jerusalem?

I disagree. I believe if we could somehow neuter the extremists that we’d be able to come up with a solution that would work. If Northern Ireland can come to an uneasy peace then I believe it’s possible in the Middle East. But sadly we _can’t_ neuter the extremists.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israelis-illegally-taking-arab-land-and-restricting-acess/713866/63 "2015-03-04T16:54:12Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Israel should just strive to be a government, not THE Jewish homeland.

That would go against their whole national mythology.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israelis-illegally-taking-arab-land-and-restricting-acess/713866/64 "2015-03-04T17:06:21Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> That would go against their whole national mythology.

That’s their problem. It should be internal and not be made anyone else’s problem.

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