# Issues...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 6, 2001, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016 "2001-09-06T13:14:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/1 "2001-09-06T13:14:13Z")

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No… please… no more **issues**!!! I hear this stupid term all day. “We have **issues** to discuss… this is an **issue** that needs addressed… let’s discuss this **issue** … there are unresolved **issues** … we need to determine what **issues** affect the outcome… ”

No!! No!! No!! No more **issues**!!!

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**Author:** ![Xerxes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/d2c977/32.png) [@Xerxes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xerxes)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/2 "2001-09-06T13:17:58Z")

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Bless you. [sub]passes hankerchief[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/3 "2001-09-06T13:51:20Z")

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Must … not … make … obvious … joke.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/4 "2001-09-06T13:52:24Z")

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I usually substitute the phrase “really fucked-up shit”.

“We have really fucked-up shit to discuss… this is really fucked-up shit that needs addressed… let’s discuss this really fucked-up shit… there is unresolved really fucked-up shit… we need to determine what really fucked-up shit affect the outcome… ”  
Try it at your next business meeting! I use it in my psych papers all the time- what a hit!

Zette

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/5 "2001-09-06T13:57:44Z")

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Have you seen the new really fucked up shit of Newsweek?

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/6 "2001-09-06T13:58:38Z")

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**Zette** , I must take really fucked-up shit with your idea.

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**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/7 "2001-09-06T14:00:27Z")

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adam: Yeah, I was reading it while at the courthouse waiting for a clerk to re-fuck-up-and-shit my birth certificate yesterday…

::: ducks and escapes :::

E. 😃

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/8 "2001-09-06T14:05:17Z")

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That was really funny. Tears are streaming down my face. Someone hand me a T-really fucked up shit.  
:SMACK!: “Oooow. What?!?”

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/9 "2001-09-07T03:57:27Z")

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I definitely think it would be proactive to conference this fucked-up shit paradigm. Think synergy.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/10 "2001-09-07T04:18:39Z")

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I think it’s time I started a magazine: “Fucked-Up Shit” In each fucked-up shit, I’ll cram as much fucked-up shit as I humanly can. Hell, each fucked-up shit will advertise for fucked-up shit so people with fucked-up shit can sell fucked-up shit to people who buy fucked-up shit of “Fucked-Up Shit.” Every year, I’ll have an extra-long fucked-up shit of “Fucked-Up Shit” so I can cram even more fucked-up shit, ads for fucked-up shit, and other fucked-up shit for people with fucked-up shit who subscribe to “Fucked-Up Shit,” either by buying it at the newsstand or by subscription. You will even be able to buy back-fucked-up shit of “Fucked-Up Shit” through my back-fucked-up shit ordering system. I will also sell bound editions of numerous fucked-up shit for those people who like all their “Fucked-Up Shit” fucked-up shit in one place. Soon, we’ll all have fucked-up shit of “Fucked-Up Shit” on our end tables, and classic fucked-up shit will sell for really fucking huge prices. I’ll be so rich I’ll be able to buy all the fucked-up shit I want! BWA HA HA HA!

😃

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**Author:** ![TheOtherOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@TheOtherOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOtherOne)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/11 "2001-09-07T04:50:03Z")

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That’s fucked up…shit…  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/12 "2001-09-07T07:10:45Z")

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The quote of the day a while back was, “He doesn’t have issues, dear - he has a fucking _subscription_.” Still cracks me up. 🙂

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/13 "2001-09-07T15:51:02Z")

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Another word I hated was **closure** , but thankfully it has been “out” for about 3 years. Same goes for **synergy**.

IMHO, **issues** is the grand-daddy of Corporate Words That Suck. There are some good runner-ups, though, and I’ll post them as I hear them. One that comes to mind is **opportunities**. Another is **action item**. Grrrrrrrr.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/14 "2001-09-07T16:12:02Z")

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Aside from the fact that I dislike the word “issues” because it’s become cliched, I use it all the time.

My therapist once explained to me that “issues” implies something that may not be able to be fixed. “Problems”, OTOH, implies there is a solution.

I liked my therapist.

Robin, who has more issues than the New York Times 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunglasses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sunglasses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunglasses)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/15 "2001-09-07T16:28:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Crafter\_Man \*  
> [B Another is **action item**. Grrrrrrrr. \*\*

Oh yeah, we have action items, and we “capture data”, too (shudder).

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/16 "2001-09-07T17:20:00Z")

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Anyone for Bullshit Bingo?

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/17 "2001-09-07T17:28:34Z")

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I vote for “ownership”.

We need to take ownership of this fucked-up shit.

my boss is obsessed with everyone having “ownership” of their work. And yet, will give no one any real authority.

Gah.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/18 "2001-09-07T17:29:27Z")

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[Kyle]  
Dude, that’s some issue right there, man.  
[/Kyle]

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**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/19 "2001-09-07T17:33:44Z")

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hmmm… I use “issues” as a replacement for “dude” or any other empty word where inflection is the only important part.

Its pretty flexable once you embrace it as a nonsense word.

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**Author:** ![darian00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@darian00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darian00)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2001, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/issues/80016/20 "2001-09-08T17:13:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Elenfair \*  
> \*\*adam: Yeah, I was reading it while at the courthouse waiting for a clerk to re-fuck-up-and-shit my birth certificate yesterday…
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> ::: ducks and escapes :::
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> E. 😃 \*\*

I think I see a sig line in there somewhere…

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