# It ain't over.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [September 14, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506 "2001-09-14T01:50:27Z")
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### Author: ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/1 "2001-09-14T01:50:27Z")

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My roommate just came in to tell me this.  
The TV is reporting that about ten people, including one woman, have been arrested trying to board planes in New York City.

These people were carrying knives, multiple IDs, and flight certificates from the same school in Florida that the original group of terrorists had graduated from.

The White House is now running searchlights.  
Welcome to Round 2.

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### Author: ![Wicked\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wicked\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wicked_Blue)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/2 "2001-09-14T01:52:52Z")

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Fuck

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### Author: ![Totoro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Totoro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totoro)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/3 "2001-09-14T01:53:26Z")

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You know, if I were a terrorist, I’d wait. Won’t we be looking for exactly this kind of thing?

OTOH, I’m glad that these terrorists were dumb enough to not do right, and fail.

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### Author: ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/4 "2001-09-14T01:54:41Z")

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My roommate saw this report on ABC; they’re calling it an “exclusive”, which might explain why [cnn.com](http://cnn.com) and [washingtonpost.com](http://washingtonpost.com) haven’t picked it up yet.

I’ll watch more and report as I hear it.

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### Author: ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/5 "2001-09-14T01:56:59Z")

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[http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC\_MAIN.html](http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_MAIN.html)

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### Author: ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/6 "2001-09-14T01:57:03Z")

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They all had Delta IDs (some pilot IDs) and uniforms.

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### Author: ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/7 "2001-09-14T01:59:17Z")

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I’ll have to agree with **Wicked** here.

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/8 "2001-09-14T02:08:17Z")

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\<sigh\>

It’s too depressing to come up with a proper response.

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### Author: ![Hanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b3f665/32.png) [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/9 "2001-09-14T02:11:39Z")

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I heard planes overhead here, and went out to look up because it has been so weird not hearing jets since Tuesday. It’s dark out, but I saw the lights of two planes, side-by-side. I am assuming that the smaller set of lights was an escort. Then a minute later another jet, then after a minute again, another jet. I have never seen two planes fly so close to each other as that first set of planes I saw. I wonder if anything was going on there?

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### Author: ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/10 "2001-09-14T02:16:55Z")

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Anger!!!

I have no words for how I feel about them.

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### Author: ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/11 "2001-09-14T02:18:07Z")

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Peter Jennings just talked about it a little more.

Apparently, there were two seperate groups of five people caught. In the first instance, they were trying to use tickets for a Tuesday morning flight; the flight was cancelled after La Guardia was shut down because of the second impact into the WTC. In the second instance, the five had gone to Kennedy Tuesday morning, but their knives had been noticed by security, so they left, and came back to try again today.

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### Author: ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/12 "2001-09-14T02:19:16Z")

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What **Wicked Blue** said.

My relatives canceled their planned flight from Florida to Oregon, which was to occur tomorrow. They were to fly on Delta.

Madness…madness…

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### Author: ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/13 "2001-09-14T02:20:59Z")

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Wow, a case where airport security _worked_!

Kudos!

Of course, I can’t sleep tonight, in case this isn’t over yet!

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### Author: ![Angkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Angkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angkins)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/14 "2001-09-14T02:21:20Z")

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At least we can be glad that the extra security caught these people…and hope that they catch even more.

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### Author: ![Dark\_Lord\_Davidson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc8723/32.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Davidson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Lord_Davidson)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/15 "2001-09-14T02:24:56Z")

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I don’t know about the rest of you, but I think that the passengers on board would feel such a sense of anger that they would revolt against the hijackers and overwhelm them, tearing them apart in the process and saving the day. I know I would.

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### Author: ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/16 "2001-09-14T02:30:40Z")

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Good point. I’m glad the system _appears_ to be working, but I think _any_ hijacker would have their hands full trying to take another passanger aircraft anytime soon. The would have a bunch of angry pax ready to send them to Allah earlier than they planned.

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### Author: ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/17 "2001-09-14T02:31:38Z")

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Maybe I’m punch drunk.  
I still can’t believe Tuesday happened, much less that they’d try again–and so soon.

It might be A Bad Symptom but there’s some fierce satisfaction mixed in, too.

They tried again–and failed.  
No more people died at whatever their target was to be.  
And they’re alive, in custody–and kickass _proof_.  
These vicious “martyrs” just laid down the kind of sterling, traceable, documentable trail that civilized nations require before assigning responsibility.  
(At least I’m hoping so; the previous “martyrs” weren’t careful about their trail.)

Guess this proves it IS war, folks. They aren’t content with a one-day bloodbath. They’re still here and still trying.

Veb

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### Author: ![vix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e4f/32.png) [@vix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vix)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/18 "2001-09-14T02:37:15Z")

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Animals.

:mad:

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### Author: ![Tattva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@Tattva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tattva)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/19 "2001-09-14T02:43:33Z")

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**Wicked** , you can express my opinion anytime.

I heard on the news tonight that they expanded the barricade around the white house to encompass a much larger portion of central DC. I think they knew more was probably going to be attempted.

:searches for links:

[http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/america.attack/](http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/america.attack/) mentions expanded security around the residence.

Ah well. Peter Jennings told me, so it must be right :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2001, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-aint-over/81506/20 "2001-09-14T02:50:45Z")

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I just don’t get it. Why would any terrorist with a scintilla of common sense try to pull this identical stunt again when all systems are at the highest alert. If this story is verified it’s just idiotic. I don’t want to be culturally insensitive but anyone of presumed or suspected middle eastern origin moving through a US airport is going to be under a microscope. What the hell were they thinking? Now is not the time to try to get out of Dodge.

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