# It doesn't sell! Let's call it something else! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [January 22, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624 "2023-01-22T21:34:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/81 "2023-01-25T02:28:58Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’m currently medicating with “Durban” which used to be called “Durban Poison” 🎶 If you live on the road, well there’s a new highway code You take the urban noise with some Durban poison It’s gonna lessen your load 30 DAYS IN THE HOLE! 🎶 Oddly, many of the lyrics sites have that as “you take the urban noise with some dirt with poison.” ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/82 "2023-01-25T04:32:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Trainwreck Mmmmm. 15 years ago (statute of limitations expired, one would hope) I got some seeds from a Canadian grower, who’d originally got seeds from a California grower and grew a few cycles of Trainwreck. Not a heavy producer, but a potent sativa. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/83 "2023-01-25T04:41:27Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > A tri-tip is stupid expensive here in Arkansas and considerably cheaper in California. I can only find tri-tip at one of our smaller grocery chains, but I love it. I just cooked up a tri-tip. Delicioso. We order or beef to get good grass-fed otherwise I rarely see it here in Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/84 "2023-01-25T21:55:19Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > My parents told me everything was ‘beef’, or I wouldn’t eat it. Same for gravy. It had to be beef gravy or I wouldn’t eat it, so she told me every gravy was ‘beef’ gravy. My kid brain just didn’t catch on that we couldn’t be having beef gravy with our chicken. I don’t think I caught on to it until I was in middle school, when she tried to pass off oysters as ‘beef’. Is this what made you become a Chefguy? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/85 "2023-01-25T22:08:25Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Is this what made you become a Chefguy? Ha! No, it was boredom that got me into cooking. And I’m not a chef, thank the gods. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/86 "2023-01-25T22:18:33Z")
Some more non-food ones: It’s not a trailer, it’s a “manufactured home”. It’s not a duplex, it’s a “twin home”. It’s not a second mortgage, it’s a “home equity loan”. It’s not gambling, it’s “gaming”. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/87 "2023-01-25T23:04:11Z")
Perfect example, @terentii. Applause. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/88 "2023-01-25T23:09:16Z")
It’s not a shoddy dump, it’s a “prefabricated home.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/89 "2023-01-25T23:16:03Z")
This is a somewhat obscure one, but “kaffir lime” is shifting in some markets (outside the US so far as I’ve noticed; like Australia and I would presume in English-speaking parts of Africa) to “makrut lime” (though searching says it’s referred to as “Thai lime” in South Africa). Reason being that “kaffir” is an extremely offensive word in South Africa, and it would be much like calling Brazil nuts “n\*\*\*\*\* toes.” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/90 "2023-01-25T23:29:57Z")
“Kiwi fruit” has been superseded by " _Zespri_™ Organic SunGold™ _Kiwifruit_". I don’t see lonely fuzzy kiwis rotting away on supermarket shelves anymore, it’s the new breed being marketed, sometimes with the aid of [Dancing Kiwis](https://www.facebook.com/ZespriAU/videos/472289887976122/). If those freaking exhibitionistic fruit show up on my TV, they’ll be muted even faster than Liberty Mutual ads. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/91 "2023-01-25T23:30:11Z")
I feel like the banned posters who keep coming back as socks deserve a mention. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/92 "2023-01-25T23:57:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “Kiwi fruit” has been superseded by " _Zespri_™ Organic SunGold™ _Kiwifruit_". The gold kiwi I had was noticeably better than the regular ones. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/93 "2023-01-26T00:48:19Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “Kiwi fruit” has been superseded by " _Zespri_™ Organic SunGold™ _Kiwifruit_". On that note, I was always perplexed by how Cuties™ somehow managed to corner the market on clementines. I have literally overheard people at the farmers market ask their partner “Should we get some Cuties?”, when I’m sure the vendors at the farmers market are not selling Cuties™ brand clementines, but rather generic mandarin oranges. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/94 "2023-01-26T00:49:32Z")
Am I mistaken or weren’t they called Buffalo Wings because chicken wings were the scrap meat, so calling them chicken wings initially wouldn’t lead to sales? Thus why they named it after the city they were invented in. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/95 "2023-01-26T00:56:22Z")
Reminds me of that bit from “Yes Minister” in which the EU has set standards for the term “sausage” that English bangers can’t meet - leaving them the alternative term of Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube (they compromise on “British Sausage”) [The Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube | Yes, Minister: 1984 Christmas Special | BBC Comedy Greats - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPwQ0PmK9lw) (start at 1:12 or so) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/96 "2023-01-26T01:00:46Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “Kiwi fruit” has been superseded by " _Zespri_™ Organic SunGold™ _Kiwifruit_" I don’t think that’s the same thing. Instead, it’s attaching a brand name to a commodity item, so you can charge more for it. Look at POM Wonderful pomegranates for instance. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/97 "2023-01-26T01:01:55Z")
Now I’m in the mood for bangers and mash (with mushy peas, of course)! 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/98 "2023-01-26T01:13:20Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > On that note, I was always perplexed by how Cuties™ somehow managed to corner the market on clementines. I aka mandarins aka tangerines. But there is a slight difference. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/99 "2023-01-26T01:20:23Z")
There are other brands of similar oranges, like Halos. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/100 "2023-01-26T03:58:52Z")
I’ve read a lot of business and restaurant industry articles on trends and research, and they all pretty much say “zero sugar” is preferred by Gen Z and “no one wants to be on a diet.” Also, many brands no longer use “diet” at all, zero sugar sodas are bought in larger quantities than regular ones, etc. Not sure about men in general not wanting diet. I used to drink Diet Rite without issue when I went really low carb. I drank Diet Pepsi Max (US version, now known as Pepsi Zero Sugar) because it had 0 sugar with extra caffeine, but I could see dropping the “diet” increasing sales with men who want caffeine without sugar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=6)