# It doesn't sell! Let's call it something else! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [January 22, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624 "2023-01-22T21:34:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/101 "2023-01-26T04:05:41Z")
mobile homes and modular homes are both types of manufactured homes but only the former is a “trailer.” Manufactured homes have long been the dominant type of “regular” single family house in many areas. They are just built in pieces and then transported and put on the foundation (which trailers don’t have). I rarely if ever notice trailers being called manufactured homes (I think more of something like Nanticoke homes circa 1970-2000), usually mobile homes. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/102 "2023-01-26T04:16:45Z")
There are salt and pepper diamonds available, too, inclusions are included. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/103 "2023-01-26T04:29:38Z")
I’m an easy sell for something cute. Kiwi marketed as Mighties from the same company that brought us Cutie oranges just makes me smile. [https://mightieskiwi.com/](https://mightieskiwi.com/) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/104 "2023-01-26T04:32:40Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > > [@sitchensis](#): > > > > A London broil is not a cut of meat. It is a cooking method. Every butcher, grocery store, and restaurant disagrees with you. . > > Funny, every time I ever ordered London broil in a restaurant, it was flank steak. I’ve never seen it with any other cut – until recently, when, for some reason, they make it with different cuts. They make an inferior London broil, but I guess if you’ve never had the real thing, you wouldn’t notice. Maybe it’s regional? When I was a kid, in the 60s, my mother often served London Broil, and it was never flank, it was top round. I didn’t have flank steak until I was an adult, and it was called “flank steak”. I loved London broil, I should try making it one of these days. (Flank would probably work well with the same preparation, now that you point it out.) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/105 "2023-01-26T13:13:14Z")
I’ve fallen for “no added sugar” a few times. I bought sweet relish labeled no sugar and was surprised to find it had artificial sweeteners. Tasted awful. I actually thought it was naturally sweet somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/106 "2023-01-26T13:34:49Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > Am I mistaken or weren’t they called Buffalo Wings because chicken wings were the scrap meat, so calling them chicken wings initially wouldn’t lead to sales? Thus why they named it after the city they were invented in. I only remember them being called “Buffalo Wings” a decade or so _after_ they had spread quite widely. My understanding of the term is that it is shorthand for “Chicken wings with hot sauce on them”, because chicken wings without sauce on them aren’t Buffalo wings. In fact, from there the sauce itself became known as “Buffalo sauce”, so you can have a “Buffalo chicken sandwich” which implies “chicken sandwich with Buffalo sauce on it”. So while it is true that chicken wings used to be scrap meat, and chicken wings with sauce on them are called Buffalo wings, I don’t think they are called Buffalo wings _because_ chicken wings were scrap meat. It’s my vague recollection that they became widely known as Buffalo wings _after_ chicken wings started becoming popular. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/107 "2023-01-26T13:44:24Z")
how about chitlins, hog mawls, now “sweetmeats” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/108 "2023-01-26T14:16:29Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > It’s my vague recollection that they became widely known as Buffalo wings _after_ chicken wings started becoming popular. I think it was after adding hot sauce to chicken wings became popular in Buffalo, NY, too. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/109 "2023-01-26T14:17:08Z")
My favorite is “Canola oil”, for a nasty substance that used to have an even nastier name. (although the plant is still called rape.) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/110 "2023-01-26T14:56:27Z")
Mentioned in the third post. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/111 "2023-01-26T15:12:55Z")
“Buffalo wings” refer to a specific preparation of chicken wings: deep fried and served with a cayenne-pepper based hot sauce and butter or margarine. The term has maybe expanded to include grilled wings and battered or breaded wings, but calling them “Buffalo wings”, to me at least, requires the buttery hot sauce. A wing served with barbecue sauce is absolutely not a “Buffalo wing.” It’s a “barbecue wing.” I have never heard chicken wings generically referred to as “Buffalo wings.” In the other direction, simply calling “Buffalo wings” “chicken wings” is not descriptive enough. There are all manners of preparation of chicken wings. Here in Chicago, I remember spicy wings simply called “hot wings.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/112 "2023-01-26T15:27:57Z")
I know. I wasn’t trying to be original. Most of the examples that i thought of have already been mentioned, or are too niche to interest anyone else. That’s still my favorite example. It’s such a striking example of the trend. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/113 "2023-01-26T15:43:53Z")
A Belgian supermarket [“rebranded”](https://www.contagious.com/news-and-views/campaign-of-the-week-delhaize-the-vegetable-name-change) vegetables to make them more appealing to children. Thus, carrots became “orange rockets”, oyster mushrooms “gnome trumpets” and courgettes (zucchini) transformed into “troll bats”.\* \*a term that could be more appropriately applied to Japanese-style long eggplants. \*\*zucchini is zucchini, dammit. We don’t need no steenkin’ courgettes or “vegetable marrows”. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/114 "2023-01-26T15:44:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Starting a few years ago, some genius at IIRC Coca Cola figured out how to make a sugarless low-cal soda that tasted almost identical to the regular sugary kind. But what to call it? “Diet Coke” was already taken. Pepsi quickly followed suit but what to call it? “Diet Pepsi” was already taken. They did not want to destroy the sales of the existing diet-tasting sodas. That’s true of the colas since their diet version has cachet. But they definitely started rebranding other diet sodas as Zero Sugar as well. For example, Sprite Zero Sugar has completely replaced Diet Sprite. Here’s a CNN article on the phonomenon: [https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/business-food/diet-soda-zero-sugar/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/business-food/diet-soda-zero-sugar/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/115 "2023-01-26T15:47:40Z")
There’s some pretty high quality prefabricated/modular homes and some pretty shoddy stick-built homes. Are cars built in a factory rather than custom as they were around 1900, or computers built in a factory rather than custom as they were in the 1940s and '50s, shoddy too? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/116 "2023-01-26T16:01:46Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Here in Chicago, I remember spicy wings simply called “hot wings.” I can’t remember the last time I had Buffalo wings. When I go out, or make them at home, they’re ‘hot wings’. I guess the restaurants fry them, but at home I just bake them with some salt, and finish by dousing them with Frank’s. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/117 "2023-01-26T16:04:56Z")
I’m wondering if wienies or wieners was changed to frankfurters somewhere along the way, although a Frankfurter is a sausage (or person) from Frankfurt. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/118 "2023-01-26T16:06:26Z")
A friend with a brewery offers wings every Friday night. They are different. He has a big smoker, and he smokes the wings, then refrigerates them. When you order wings they are reheated then tossed with whatever sauce you specify (none, barbecue, hot, sweet and spicy, etc). The big problem since corona is cost. The menu has “market price” which goes up and down each week. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/119 "2023-01-26T16:11:17Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’m wondering if wienies or wieners was changed to frankfurters somewhere along the way, although a Frankfurter is a sausage (or person) from Frankfurt. Wieners are sausages from Wien (Vienna). Per [Daily Meal](https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/12-things-you-didn-t-know-about-hot-dogs-slideshow): > Head to an authentic German sausage shop and you’ll see two different sausages: wieners and frankfurters. Frankfurters are made entirely with pork, and wieners are a mixture of pork and beef. And as the names might imply, frankfurters originated in Frankfurt and wieners from Vienna. To make things even more confusing: in the U.S., “franks” tend to be all beef. To make things more confusing, In the U.S. 'Vienna sausage" are those little 2-inch mushy things that come out of a can. 😛 ---
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> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > or computers built in a factory rather than custom as they were in the 1940s and '50s, shoddy too? yes. You buy “factory” computers, and they come with a whole bunch of bloatware already installed. You have someone custom build a computer for you, you have a much better selection of memory, accessories, and better interaction between drivers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=7)