# It doesn't sell! Let's call it something else! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [January 22, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624 "2023-01-22T21:34:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/121 "2023-01-26T16:54:26Z")
Disney spinning off Touchstone Pictures for more serious adult fare films to avoid the “kids and family” perception of the Disney brand. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/122 "2023-01-26T17:43:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Wieners are sausages from Wien (Vienna) Oh hell, I knew that, having lived and traveled in Europe for many years. Wiener, as in wienerschitzel. Brain fart. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/123 "2023-01-26T18:11:34Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Brain fart. ‘Cerebral flatulence’. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/124 "2023-01-26T20:40:47Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > s/dolphinfish/mahi mahi/g What is this? Is it mimicking some kind of computer coding? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/125 "2023-01-26T20:42:25Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Pork belly \> bacon _Bacon_ is not a synonym for pork belly. Some types of bacon _can_ be made from pork belly, but bacon is definitely not solely pork belly. And pork belly isn’t bacon until you make it into bacon. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/126 "2023-01-26T20:43:40Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > I was always perplexed by how Cuties™ somehow managed to corner the market on clementines. Often, what Cuties brand is selling isn’t even a true clementine. They cornered the market in the U.S. by being the first US brand to hit the market in quantity. Prior to that, clementines came from Portugal or Spain but we started getting worked up about the environmental cost of importing our food from far away. That caused retailers to start looking for local sources. Though I agree with the reasoning for switching to local brands, I miss the clementines of my younger adulthood and the apples from New Zealand. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/127 "2023-01-26T20:55:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > _Bacon_ is not a synonym for pork belly. Some types of bacon _can_ be made from pork belly, but bacon is definitely not solely pork belly. And pork belly isn’t bacon until you make it into bacon. Yeah, bacon can also be pig’s ass, just like ham, which also sounds better than smoked swine bottom. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/128 "2023-01-26T21:00:22Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What is this? Is it mimicking some kind of computer coding? Yes, it’s a command in the vi text editor, which replaces every occurrence of “dolphin fish” with “mahi mahi”. It’s an old nerd joke. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/129 "2023-01-26T21:03:25Z")
I’ve known for a long time that canola is a euphemistic name for rape seed oil, but I didn’t know until recently that it was an acronym. It comes from “Canadian oil, low acid”. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/130 "2023-01-26T21:15:22Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > My favorite is “Canola oil”, for a nasty substance that used to have an even nastier name. What is nasty about rapeseed oil? Or is it only the Canola brand? When I was in rehab after getting a cardiac stent, a nutritionist asked me what my preferred oils for cooking were, and I answered “sunflower seed oil and olive oil”. She told me to exchange the sunflower seed oil with rapeseed oil for my health’s sake. So generally, I use olive oil mostly for pasta sauces because it’s a good aromatic basis for most sauces. But if I needed a neutral oil for frying (potatoes, veggie sausages and patties and stuff like that), I had always used sunflower seed oil and after the rehab learned that rapeseed oil is a perfect substitute for it, a neutral oil with very little taste of its own. So I don’t understand your hate. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/131 "2023-01-26T21:21:18Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > What is nasty about rapeseed oil? It has the word “RAPE” in it. Can’t have that! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/132 "2023-01-26T21:25:07Z")
Well, I won’t go into that discussion, but I thought it was about the taste, as in culinary taste. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/133 "2023-01-26T21:30:55Z")
It has a weird fishy taste when heated to me. This is a common complaint, I found out, but not everyone seems to smell and/or taste it. What’s wrong with sunflower oil? That’s my preferred neutral oil. I like peanut as well. I don’t like canola or soybean oils. Canola isn’t exactly synonymous with rapeseed. It’s a type of low acid rapeseed oil that is used culinarily. Regular rapeseed oil is not generally good for you. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/134 "2023-01-26T21:34:40Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > What’s wrong with sunflower oil? Well, I couldn’t tell you, I only know that there are good and bad oils for people with cardiac illness, and according to my nutritionist, sunflower oil seems to be worse than rapeseed oil, and she is the expert. It really didn’t matter to me, one is as good and cheap as the other, so for 8 years now I’ve been using rapeseed oil. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/135 "2023-01-26T21:37:12Z")
Looks like something to do with Omega-6 fatty acids and not balancing them enough with Omega-3s, or so a cursory search says. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/136 "2023-01-26T22:22:07Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > What is nasty about rapeseed oil? Canola isn’t generic rapeseed, which can be harsh on human digestion. It’s a specific brand of rapeseed that has lower acid then industrial rapeseed oil and is easier to digest. In North America, we use the words to mean very similar but different oils. In the U.K. both types tend to just be called rapeseed. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/137 "2023-01-26T22:24:18Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > It’s a specific brand Well, it was a trademark, but can now be used generically. I don’t really think of it as a “brand” as there are many brands that sell canola oil. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/138 "2023-01-26T22:24:26Z")
I had no idea there was a difference between vegetable oils. I pretty much just buy whichever is cheapest at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/139 "2023-01-26T22:25:49Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > Yes, it’s a command in the vi text editor, which replaces every occurrence of “dolphin fish” with “mahi mahi”. My command was in `sed`, not `vi`! (more nerd joke, the same syntax is used for both) Perhaps a bit outside of Cafe Society, and certainly outside the scope of the OP, but this does remind me that renaming things is extremely common in computer software. Sometimes it’s purely a revision number, which I don’t really count as renaming (MacOS 10.14 → 10.15 → 11). Others are sort of version numbers, but all messed up (Windows NT → XP → 7). Others are just a complete renaming with no obvious reason (for the grey beards: OSF/1 → Digital Unix → Tru64). ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624/140 "2023-01-26T22:31:03Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > In the U.K. both types tend to just be called rapeseed. Well, I’m in Germany and it’s just called “Rapsöl” across brands (there’s no ‘Canola’ brand sold here that I know of). I don’t know about any major differences between the brands, and I’ve never noticed any acid in rapeseed oil, at least not from the taste. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-doesnt-sell-lets-call-it-something-else/978624.md?page=8)