# It has always been this: Conservatives believe they have the right to kill everyone else **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 28, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-has-always-been-this-conservatives-believe-they-have-the-right-to-kill-everyone-else/921749 "2020-09-28T15:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 57
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-has-always-been-this-conservatives-believe-they-have-the-right-to-kill-everyone-else/921749/57 "2020-09-29T21:11:10Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If they maintain firearms, support things like concealed or open carry, or stand your grounds, they’re expressing a desire to kill, whether they admit to it or not. > [@Acsenray](#): > > Oh so you need to shoot someone in the back as they are fleeing with things? Or even empty-handed? That’s the kind of thing that the castle doctrine is used for. Any rational fear of deadly attack is taken care of by ordinary self-defense standards. The caste doctrine isn’t needed for that. You’re painting with some very, very broad strokes here. I identify as a moderate (social liberal/fiscal conservative) that prior to 2016 would flip flop on voting based on the local or national representative’s qualifications [snarky comment deleted as this is GD] - but I have a CCW and do own and maintain firearms. By your standards I’m evil, or did you mean to imply that only _conservatives_ who own and maintain firearms are evil? As for desire to kill - no, I don’t, but I acknowledge that by owning a firearm that I am _willing_ to kill, if and I mean _IF_ I decide that the situation merits it, namely risk of injury or loss of life to myself or family. Property? Laughable no. Playing a hero for someone else’s injury or property, heck no. As for the Castle doctrine, again, you overgeneralize. _YES_ there are people who use it as an excuse to kill (see a previous thread about [If you shoot someone in self-defense are you better off (from a legal standpoint) to kill the person rather than wound them?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-shoot-someone-in-self-defense-are-you-better-off-from-a-legal-standpoint-to-kill-the-person-rather-than-wound-them/914018) But it also deals with a very real situation - if someone breaks into your home you have every right to put yourself and your family first. You are getting called on to make some very tough decisions very fast, and under explict threat. If it were me, would I shoot? Unlikely, for the reasons I pointed out in the thread I linked, but the law does have a point, even if you disagree with it, or even if other people have abused it. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-has-always-been-this-conservatives-believe-they-have-the-right-to-kill-everyone-else/921749)._