# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/281 "2013-02-16T11:36:15Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > I think we’d all be happier if we ignored **pchaos**. I know I am, now that I do. I don’t need any more chaos in my life and I especially don’t need p(chaos)\*. For what it’s worth, I have no qualms with people knowing _certain_ details about me online and I haven’t purchased a game since Skyrim. That said, I do have my suspicions that pchaos pisses chaos. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/282 "2013-02-16T14:30:51Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > As much as people despise her, Ayn Rand has a coherent philosophy. And was an atheist. As was Marx, who reached opposite – but equally “coherent” – conclusions. You’ve got the aforementioned Jean-Paul Sartre and everyone from Bertrand Russell to Friedrich Nietzsche. Various atheists have produced competing systems that have appealed to different people. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/283 "2013-02-16T15:18:11Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And was an atheist. As was Marx, who reached opposite – but equally “coherent” – conclusions. You’ve got the aforementioned Jean-Paul Sartre and everyone from Bertrand Russell to Friedrich Nietzsche. Various atheists have produced competing systems that have appealed to different people. What’s your point? Why in this world don’t you people get this Jean-Paul fellow and this Bertrand dude together with this Ayn babe and this Friedrich cat into a big room and make them scream and yell and argue with each other about whose system is the most coherent or the coolest or the neatest or something? Let’s get some action going, for Chrissakes. And I mean NOW, you lazy slobs. Come on, this is a minimum to gain my approval for atheism. This would be at least the beginning of the “something more” I’m demanding of you people. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/284 "2013-02-16T15:45:38Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Why in this world don’t you people get this Jean-Paul fellow and this Bertrand dude together with this Ayn babe and this Friedrich cat into a big room and make them scream and yell and argue with each other about whose system is the most coherent or the coolest or the neatest or something? Let’s get some action going, for Chrissakes. And I mean NOW, you lazy slobs. Come on, this is a minimum to gain my approval for atheism. This would be at least the beginning of the “something more” I’m demanding of you people. But there isn’t anything more. If there were no God, there would be no atheists. G.K. Chesterton. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/285 "2013-02-16T15:49:42Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > But there isn’t anything more. > > If there were no God, there would be no atheists. G.K. Chesterton. And if there was no meat, there would be no vegetarians. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/286 "2013-02-16T15:59:49Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > But there isn’t anything more. I have plenty, thank you for your concern, and you’re an idiot. > [@](#): > > If there were no God, there would be no atheists. G.K. Chesterton. Chesterton was a wit. If you want to approach from that angle seriously, it’s just as easily said that if there were no\* concept\* of God, we would all be atheists by default. And as **LeeshaJoy** said, what’s your point? And, BTW, you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/287 "2013-02-16T16:04:06Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > I have plenty, thank you for your concern, and you’re an idiot. > > Chesterton was a wit. If you want to approach from that angle seriously, it’s just as easily said that if there were no\* concept\* of God, we would all be atheists by default. And as **LeeshaJoy** said, what’s your point? And, BTW, you’re an idiot. In fact, we are all born atheists. Both my kids are atheists. I never encouraged them one way or another; nor however did I decline to.answer their questions about my opinions on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/288 "2013-02-16T17:38:11Z")
> [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > And if there was no meat, there would be no vegetarians. What’s your point? It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/289 "2013-02-16T17:39:32Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. Big surprise. You also don’t know what ironic means. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/290 "2013-02-16T17:51:53Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > But there isn’t anything more. > > If there were no God, there would be no atheists. G.K. Chesterton. I think you might be misunderstanding Chesterton. In any case, I can also play that game. “If god existed, no one would believe in god.” ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/291 "2013-02-16T17:59:41Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. God does not exist, except in the minds of men. Therefore the above statement is, as usual, whacked. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/292 "2013-02-16T18:08:30Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. That has got to be the single most _stupid_ thing any religionist has ever said about atheism. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/293 "2013-02-16T18:38:33Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. You think THAT’S interesting, think about what the THEIST’S existence depends on! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/294 "2013-02-16T19:06:36Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s ironic that an atheist’s existence is dependent on the existence of God. are you really this stupid or are you just jerking around to get a reaction? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/295 "2013-02-16T19:22:24Z")
He has successfully deflected you from the question at hand. ---
**Author:** ![huck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@huck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/huck)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/296 "2013-02-16T19:49:44Z")
I’m a new poster, but an old lawyer. I asked pchaos if he was really a lawyer because he doesn’t seem to think, express himself or display the kind of knowledge most lawyers have and use. I will hedge in my lawyerly way though. He might be a lawyer, but I’d be interested to know some specifics about his area of expertise and practice. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/297 "2013-02-16T20:01:49Z")
> [@huck](#): > > I’m a new poster, but an old lawyer. > > I asked pchaos if he was really a lawyer because he doesn’t seem to think, express himself or display the kind of knowledge most lawyers have and use. > > I will hedge in my lawyerly way though. He might be a lawyer, but I’d be interested to know some specifics about his area of expertise and practice. It’s quite possible that subsequent to becoming a full-fledged lawyer, he suffered some debilitating incident that impaired his cognitive function. ---
**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/298 "2013-02-16T20:21:45Z")
Baptism? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/299 "2013-02-16T20:28:30Z")
What kind of law do you practice, **pchaos**? ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/300 "2013-02-16T21:10:55Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Not me, until September 2014 (hopefully). **jtgain** is in the same boat but I think he is taking the bar exam this month. Taking it at the end of July, so I will be a lawyer in September, 2013 (hopefully) 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=16)