# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/21 "2013-02-14T22:45:24Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> But didn’t you hear? “It’s a so what type thing.”

I vote pretend.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/22 "2013-02-14T22:46:33Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Under the law, it’s the doctrine of Qualis Rei. . . .

Under “birdlaw,” wouldn’t that be “Quails Rei?”

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/23 "2013-02-14T22:48:09Z")

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Hey - I always wanted to be a lawyer when I was growing up - can I be one now?

Just askin…

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/24 "2013-02-14T22:57:10Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Under “birdlaw,” wouldn’t that be “Quails Rei?”

Ah, it’s a 1920’s-style “quail rei.”

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/25 "2013-02-14T23:07:54Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Maybe we need \*\*Bricker \*\*to quiz him on Mopery and Dopery?

Who was the ‘lawyer’ that failed that little test a few years back?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/26 "2013-02-14T23:09:10Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Am I allowed to use the T word in this forum? I hope so.

It looks like it; from the [rules](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=384736):

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> Q: What should I do when I see someone “trolling” on the SDMB?
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> A: Do NOT publicly accuse another poster of trolling. (The only exception to this is in the forum called BBQ Pit where it is permissible to use the term “troll” as an insult.)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/27 "2013-02-14T23:24:23Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Who was the ‘lawyer’ that failed that little test a few years back?

**Beryl Mooncalf** , if memory serves.

[It does.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=211820)

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/28 "2013-02-14T23:37:34Z")

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Meh, the fake lawyering doesn’t chafe my knarbles as much as the inability to comprehend anything written to him. He lost all credibility a while ago and I cannot believe he is not acting this way deliberately. At first I thought it was to build up Martyr Points ™ but now I just think he’s yanking our chains.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/29 "2013-02-14T23:47:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Someone has to be the worst lawyer on earth. Why not **pchaos**?
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> For the record, **pchaos** , every lawyer I have ever seen on this board has been very, very circumspect with his/her legal advice because on a message board you don’t get all of the facts, you are speculating, and because laws vary between states and they may not know all the relevant laws. Not only did you disregard that and give some really moronic advice, you did it for someone who doesn’t even live in the same country you do, so there is no chance at all you know the laws. Even worse, Canada is an English-speaking country, and whatever language you post in, it’s not English. I can believe you might be a lawyer, but I cannot believe you are remotely competent.
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> And yes, all of this is secondary to your inability to construct an argument or follow simple logic or express your opinions or consider possibilities outside your own very narrow set of assumptions and experience. Lawyers are supposed to be very good at all of those things, and you’re not. That and your flat-out awful “advice” in that thread make it hard for people to believe you could be a lawyer. Worse, lately more and more of your posts seem disingenuous, self-contradictory, or totally off-topic. I assume you’re frustrated because nobody takes your opinions seriously, but the problem is they don’t deserve to be taken seriously. They’re totally uninformed and you’ve shown little interest in educating yourself and little ability to learn on the occasions you have tried to. You spend all your time telling everybody else what they think when you have no idea where they are coming from, and when you stop yourself long enough to ask people about their opinions, you don’t listen to the answer. It’s sort of a perfect storm of dumb.

It’s also a liability thing. Even though no jury is ever going to find that a lawyer is liable for giving bad advice to a stranger on the internet, none of us wants to waste a few years of our life proving this point.

That and we don’t have all the facts and the prudent thing is to go talk to a local lawyer licensed in the jurisdiction.

I do think that it is entirely possible for a lawyer to also be an idiot. I’m an idiot, and I’m smarter than most local lawyers.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/30 "2013-02-14T23:52:03Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> He got [Pitted once before](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=678621). The thread went really well.

Right! I forgot about that mess. Well, that one really got off on the wrong foot. This one looks more promising.

Of the posters that last more than a week or so, I think **pchaos** is the most obtuse (is that the right word? I’m looking for something meaning unwilling or unable to understand). It’s worse than talking to a brick wall, because a brick wall won’t change the subject on you and redefine words as needed. We should do a community banning and just stop engaging this clown.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/31 "2013-02-14T23:54:03Z")

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His latest [droppings](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16007477&postcount=710)in GD.

He’s been T-rolling that thread like Casey Jones for the past 2 weeks.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/32 "2013-02-15T00:27:04Z")

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I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s too goddamn stupid to be a troll. Which is pretty goddamn stupid indeed. Which pretty much precludes him being an actual lawyer, but that was pretty much established anyway.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/33 "2013-02-15T00:55:11Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> **Beryl Mooncalf** , if memory serves.
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> [It does.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=211820)

Great memories!

I was thinking about that old thread the other day as i was watching _Downton Abbey_ - a plot device in that show relates to an estate of inheritance in real property which cannot be alienated by the owner but must be passed on to the next heir – an entail. And this made me think of the Rule Against Perpetuities and the Rule in Shelley’s Case and I remembered good old crazy Beryl’s lame attempt at a rebuttal.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/34 "2013-02-15T00:56:42Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Maybe we need \*\*Bricker \*\*to quiz him on Mopery and Dopery?

As far as **Bricker** goes; I don’t think he’s a real brick layer. So…

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/35 "2013-02-15T01:00:10Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> It’s worse than talking to a brick wall, because a brick wall won’t change the subject on you and redefine words as needed.

See, there’s your answer: he’s defining the word _“lawyer”_ to mean _“something other than a lawyer.”_ Gas-station attendant? Shoeshine boy?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/36 "2013-02-15T01:14:29Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Right! I forgot about that mess. Well, that one really got off on the wrong foot. This one looks more promising.
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> Of the posters that last more than a week or so, I think **pchaos** is the most obtuse (is that the right word? I’m looking for something meaning unwilling or unable to understand). It’s worse than talking to a brick wall, because a brick wall won’t change the subject on you and redefine words as needed. **We should do a community banning and just stop engaging this clown.**

Back on the AOL board I believe we referred to that as “sending to Coventry.”

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/37 "2013-02-15T01:41:47Z")

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Maybe his local vendor switched from Dapper Dan to Fop? That would explain a lot.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/38 "2013-02-15T01:42:11Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s too goddamn stupid to be a troll. Which is pretty goddamn stupid indeed. Which pretty much precludes him being an actual lawyer, but that was pretty much established anyway.

The man is pure troll. Even an idiot can understand the definition of a word-this “lawyer” lies through his teeth about accepting definitions, then deliberately twists any and all arguments and facts to mean what he wants them to mean, even if he has to create his own definitions. There are still people over in the other thread who think the problem is that it just hasn’t been explained properly to him, and he’s screwing with them.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/39 "2013-02-15T02:09:59Z")

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At this point - he is clearly ‘trolling’ - whether or not that was his intent originally is hard to say - nothing he posts lends any credibity or real thought/.argument to what he wants to supposedly discuss.

and I daresay he’s enjoying the fact he got pitted - he craves attention - I honestly think he’s about 13 and trying to pretend to be something he is not.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/40 "2013-02-15T02:32:09Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Hell with his legal qualifications; he needs pitting because of his intellectual failings.

Dear god, _ **this.** _

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