# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one

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**Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/381 "2013-02-18T15:41:29Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Now you’re coming up with the ad hominem arguments, I expected better from you.
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> I’ll admit that I haven’t made my most scholarly efforts on this Board, but that’s why I asked Czarcasm early on whether this was a friendly debate or a cutthroat debate. As a practicing attorney for another two years or so, I have enough serious work to do. I would prefer not to have to think too much while posting on a message board.

“As a practicing attorney for another two years or so” is an extremely awkward sentence. What does the “another” indicate there? Are you planning on only practicing for a further two years? Do you still have two years before you open a practice?

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/382 "2013-02-18T15:41:45Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> I’ll admit that I haven’t made my most scholarly efforts on this Board, but that’s why I asked Czarcasm early on whether this was a friendly debate or a cutthroat debate.

Heh. Czarcasm’s in charge of whether this a friendly or cutthroat debate. I don’t remember the exchange, but I’m guessing he picked cutthroat eh, and that’s why you started telling a bunch of people you never met that they have no purpose in life, are listless, that they should do useless things you think they need to do, like starting churches, and basically insulting people left and right?

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> As a practicing attorney for another two years or so, I have enough serious work to do. I would prefer not to have to think too much while posting on a message board.

Right. You have too much to do. That’s why you’ve been posting here 9 times a day since you joined two months ago.

Although the “not thinking too much while posting” part could explain a lot.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/383 "2013-02-18T15:45:52Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> and here you go again - claiming to be a practicing attorney…

As I pointed out, just up-thread a bit, I’m starting to see reasons to suspect he isn’t a practicing Christian, either, and for similar reasons. He didn’t address that.

So **pchaos** , what denomination are you?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/384 "2013-02-18T15:46:07Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Now you’re coming up with the ad hominem arguments, I expected better from you.
> 
> I’ll admit that I haven’t made my most scholarly efforts on this Board, but that’s why I asked Czarcasm early on whether this was a friendly debate or a cutthroat debate.

Link, please?

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/385 "2013-02-18T15:46:32Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Heh. Czarcasm’s in charge of whether this a friendly or cutthroat debate. I don’t remember the exchange, but I’m guessing he picked cutthroat eh, and that’s why you started telling a bunch of people you never met that they have no purpose in life, are listless, that they should do useless things you think they need to do, like starting churches, and basically insulting people left and right? Right. You have too much to do. That’s why you’ve been posting here 9 times a day since you joined two months ago.

Actually, I started that thread with good intentions, I thought that I was helping the atheists become more organized. Then it turned out that I got both the atheists and the theists mad at me.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/386 "2013-02-18T15:51:16Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Actually, I started that thread with good intentions, **I thought that I was helping the atheists become more organized.** Then it turned out that I got both the atheists and the theists mad at me.

Holy arrogance, Batman!

Do us a favor? Don’t help.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/387 "2013-02-18T15:57:05Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Actually, I started that thread with good intentions, I thought that I was helping the atheists become more organized. Then it turned out that I got both the atheists and the theists mad at me.

“helping the atheists become more organized”???!!! Are you this condescending in real life?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/388 "2013-02-18T15:59:21Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> To be frank…actually my name is pchaos. I really don’t care what you think…if I did I would go back to work.

Yet, you care enough to respond - back up your claim that you are an ‘attorney’ - nothing you have posted suggests that you even have the capability to be one.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/389 "2013-02-18T16:01:25Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Actually, I started that thread with good intentions, I thought that I was helping the atheists become more organized. Then it turned out that I got both the atheists and the theists mad at me.

what the fuck makes you think you could help _anyone_ be more organized? your posts show that even you are not organized in your **own** thoughts AND you disagree with major tennets of your own ‘faith’.

You are a condescending jackass.

(which might be the best proof that you have some ‘lawyer’ in you as well)

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/390 "2013-02-18T16:03:58Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> How is that material for a future thread? You claimed, in _ **this** _ thread, that Rand has a coherent philosophy. You then claimed, in _ **this** _ thread, that you don’t consider any of the “atheist” systems you’ve looked at sufficiently coherent. Why save it for another thread when you’re already discussing it in this one?

Okay, in high school I read Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, I also have read some about her philosophy of Objectivism. But I don’t consider her philosophy to be sufficiently coherent.

Atheism appeals to the mind and that simply is not enough to me and many theists.

Religion appeals to the heart and soul of man that is it’s advantage. That’s what makes it a coherent philosophy and world view.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/391 "2013-02-18T16:06:41Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Okay, in high school I read Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, I also have read some about her philosophy of Objectivism. But I don’t consider her philosophy to be sufficiently coherent.
> 
> Atheism appeals to the mind and that simply is not enough to me and many theists.
> 
> Religion appeals to the heart and soul of man that is it’s advantage. That’s what makes it a coherent philosophy and world view.

So coherent there are never wars fought over the ‘right’ religion? how about splits in local churches/congregations over the “coherent philosophy”?

So coherent that you agree with EVERYTHING?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/392 "2013-02-18T16:06:51Z")

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He exhibits multiple signs of [psychopathy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy). (IANACP)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/393 "2013-02-18T16:08:10Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> As a practicing attorney for another two years or so, I have enough serious work to do.

Really? What kind (area, field, specialty, whatever the appropriate term is) of law do you practice?

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/394 "2013-02-18T16:18:50Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Actually, I started that thread with good intentions, I thought that I was helping the atheists become more organized. Then it turned out that I got both the atheists and the theists mad at me.

You know what? I don’t buy it, the idea that you only had good intentions. Because you’re still saying the same damn things that got people mad at you. The posts you made yesterday, you’re still saying things like atheists don’t have relevance, don’t have a coherent philosophy, despite people telling you what their philosophy is (in good faith that you’re serious.) You’re still spouting inane quips and pretending you’ve scored some kind of point. You seem to have this great need to win, to prove (to yourself, 'cause you’re not proving it to anyone else here) that you’re better than those godless atheists, because by golly, you have a PURPOSE. And you offered those poor ignorant heathens your help, and by golly they rejected it, but what can you expect from heathens, anyway? So heavy is the Christian man’s burden, hmm?

You want to demonstrate good intentions? Apologise for insulting people and then STOP INSULTING PEOPLE. We have nothing to learn from you, except as an example of “don’t be a condescending asshole like that guy.”

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/395 "2013-02-18T16:19:30Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> So coherent there are never wars fought over the ‘right’ religion? how about splits in local churches/congregations over the “coherent philosophy”?

It’s true that Osama Bin Laden and Islamist extremists have caused wars to break out. But the basic teachings of Islam and other religions focus a great deal on humility, it is important that religious people realize that they really are no more than “servants of God.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/396 "2013-02-18T16:23:08Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> It’s true that Osama Bin Laden and Islamist extremists have caused wars to break out. But the basic teachings of Islam and other religions focus a great deal on humility, it is important that religious people realize that they really are no more than “servants of God.”

I do hope you take those blinders off when you drive. Also, again and still-What type of law do you practice?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/397 "2013-02-18T16:24:55Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> It’s true that Osama Bin Laden and Islamist extremists have caused wars to break out. But the basic teachings of Islam and other religions focus a great deal on humility, it is important that religious people realize that they really are no more than “servants of God.”

Oh - are you saying Christian faith has never started/caused wars? Ever heard of the crusades? the inquisition? etc?

You avoided the rest of the question(s) in the post as well.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/398 "2013-02-18T16:31:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Also, again and still-What type of law do you practice?

Out of idle curiosity, how many times has this been asked of pchaos on this board?

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/399 "2013-02-18T16:31:47Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> You know what? I don’t buy it, the idea that you only had good intentions. Because you’re still saying the same damn things that got people mad at you. The posts you made yesterday, you’re still saying things like atheists don’t have relevance, don’t have a coherent philosophy, despite people telling you what their philosophy is (in good faith that you’re serious.) You’re still spouting inane quips and pretending you’ve scored some kind of point. You seem to have this great need to win, to prove (to yourself, 'cause you’re not proving it to anyone else here) that you’re better than those godless atheists, because by golly, you have a PURPOSE. And you offered those poor ignorant heathens your help, and by golly they rejected it, but what can you expect from heathens, anyway? So heavy is the Christian man’s burden, hmm?

I apologize. And your right, there’s a need to win.

In my heart, I’ve always felt that there were many people that were just as smart as attorneys, if not smarter. But the reason some people chose the profession of law and others didn’t, was because the attorneys were simply more competitive.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/400 "2013-02-18T16:33:43Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> In my heart, I’ve always felt that there were many people that were just as smart as attorneys, if not smarter. But the reason some people chose the profession of law and others didn’t, was because the attorneys were simply more competitive.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

:smack:

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