# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/481 "2013-02-19T01:10:05Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> I just phoned up the obvious pchaos you find on the net, sadly there was no reply but I did leave a voicemail with a code-word. If that really is you pchaos, and you are not impersonating someone, please repeat it. If it isn’t you I suppose I or others will call the, back over the next few days.

What an assinine thing to do. The only thing stupider than doing this and expecting a response would be if **pchaos** actually responded, but I think even **pchaos** wouldn’t be that stupid. Next time engage your brain before you do something like this.

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/482 "2013-02-19T01:11:01Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I followed an e-mail address based on the set of links - are you saying that one led to a deceased individual? I stopped at a motion that contained said email address - I did not go farther.
> 
> holy shit.

Maybe he’s pchaos Jr.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/483 "2013-02-19T01:24:00Z")

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> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> My best guesstimates show an attorney who sort of fits the bill, but died about a year ago and a guy with a similar name/info. with no fewer than two actions affecting ability to practice law, one public, one private. Neither really convince me this poster is one of those unless affecting a persona. But, the deceased guy has a history of knowing about certain things like the username has on other boards.

Let’s see… obviously faux Catholic… might be assuming the identity of a dead or possibly disbarred lawyer… Hmmm…

I think our ‘friend’ is not long for this board.

[sub]Hunting trolls is fun.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/484 "2013-02-19T01:42:29Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> Holy heck, the idea he was an actual lawyer seemed bizarre. I just phoned up the obvious pchaos you find on the net, sadly there was no reply but I did leave a voicemail with a code-word. If that really is you pchaos, and you are not impersonating someone, please repeat it. If it isn’t you I suppose I or others will call the, back over the next few days.
> 
> If you really are a lawyer I offer you an unreserved, unconditional apology.

“The password… Is penis.”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/485 "2013-02-19T01:45:50Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> Holy heck, the idea he was an actual lawyer seemed bizarre. I just phoned up the obvious pchaos you find on the net, sadly there was no reply but I did leave a voicemail with a code-word. If that really is you pchaos, and you are not impersonating someone, please repeat it. If it isn’t you I suppose I or others will call the, back over the next few days.

You fucking called him? Now you’re the retard in this thread.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/486 "2013-02-19T01:48:49Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> Ha. Fantastic. There were 2 “your/you’re” mishaps by pchaos on the previous page alone.

Have you forgotten the “Gaudere’s Law”?

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/487 "2013-02-19T01:52:37Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You fucking called him? Now you’re the retard in this thread.

_Somebody_ needs to be the target of us villagers’ pitchforks, tar, and feathers, after the guest of honor gets banned. He’ll do. _GET HIM!!!_

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/488 "2013-02-19T01:56:37Z")

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I seriously doubt pchaos is JW, LDS, any of the branches of Orthodox, and he’s certainly not Catholic. At least, he’s not a knowledgeable member of any of the aforementioned outfits.

And he still hasn’t bothered to mention what kind of law he practices. Oh, what the hey, perhaps we can just ignore any of his [del]stupidity[/del] posts until he answers the following:

[ol][li]From what university did pchaos get is J.D.?[/li][li]In what state did he pass the Bar Exam?[/li][li]In what state(s) is he licensed to practice law?[/li][li]What field of Law does he practice?[/li]Has he ever been correct in any posts on this board?[/ol]

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/489 "2013-02-19T01:59:18Z")

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[quote=“Monty, post:488, topic:650316”]

[li]Has he ever been correct in any posts on this board?[/li][/QUOTE]

This is the one that really matters - and the answer is “not really.”

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/490 "2013-02-19T02:08:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> What an assinine thing to do. The only thing stupider than doing this and expecting a response would be if **pchaos** actually responded, but I think even **pchaos** wouldn’t be that stupid. Next time engage your brain before you do something like this.

> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You fucking called him? Now you’re the retard in this thread.

I don’t see what’s stupid about it. From melon’s links if this guy is impersonating the real pchaos, then the latter needs to be told. If otoh this guy is in fact the same person, he may in fact like the validation of his real identity. It’s no big deal, it’s just a phone call. If the position is that it really is pchaos but he doesn’t wish to confirm that then he can just ignore the voicemail. I see no downside to anyone other than possibly myself in wasting thirty seconds of my time.

Want to know the last Internet stranger related phone call I made? Someone had ordered a dominos and I got ahold of the order. I called them up to ask if they really thought it was sane to be exposing their orders to strangers like me. If I hadn’t been me (or 95% of folk as I still reckon most people are decent) then all sorts of scummy shit could have happened to that dude.

In this case the stakes are far higher (or at least such was my position until BBJ basically showed it was a likely stolen ID but that is hindsight reasoning).

I have also made a phone call to the UK equivalent of 911 on request based on a thread here (and a pm convo leading from that thread) on scanty yet credible info. I don’t really equate that situation with this one other than to say that in my experience it takes someone to be “the guy who does things” and I have adopted a general policy of that being me. A similar situation is on a mini roundabout, which I will analogise my point to the US situation and say there’s four cars who come to a four way stop and all of them wanna turn left. S one has to go first and I try to be that person (except on a roundabout but I translated the analogy in real time 😉 )

This was a relatively substantial post to attempt on an iPad sory for any typos.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/491 "2013-02-19T02:12:43Z")

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(By the way my “guy who does things” philosophy, which I first named now, originates to reading the story of Kitty Genovese in some really cool book about marketing/psychology I forget the name of. I remember a catchphrase was along the lines of “click…whirrr” and given how many people are reading this thread I’m sure someone will know what I’m talking about - the book comes highly recommended)

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/492 "2013-02-19T02:14:54Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> Want to know the last Internet stranger related phone call I made? Someone had ordered a dominos and I got ahold of the order. I called them up to ask if they really thought it was sane to be exposing their orders to strangers like me. If I hadn’t been me (or 95% of folk as I still reckon most people are decent) then all sorts of scummy shit could have happened to that dude.

Wat?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/493 "2013-02-19T02:17:15Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> I don’t see what’s stupid about it.

Of course you don’t. Here’s hoping that annoying a stranger and giving him your phone number doesn’t cause you any problems. If it does, I’ll be right here laughing my ass off.

> [@](#):
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> I don’t really equate that situation with this one other than to say that in my experience it takes someone to be “the guy who does things” and I have adopted a general policy of that being me.

That explains a lot. My advice is that in the future you leave that job to more intelligent people.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/494 "2013-02-19T02:21:48Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I seriously doubt pchaos is JW, LDS, any of the branches of Orthodox, and **he’s certainly not Catholic**. At least, he’s not a knowledgeable member of any of the aforementioned outfits.

[my bold]

Hey **pchaos** , if you _are_, despite what it seems, a practicing Catholic, why don’t you look at **Monty** ’s post (I quoted it for you, so even _you_ can’t miss it), and reflect on why the Catholic church [should, but doesn’t\*] calls out people who bring scandal upon the church. He’s a _\<gasp\> Mormon_, and even _he_ can see that you don’t represent the Church [Catholic]. Give it a rest. I’m an _ **ex** _-Catholic, and people like you make me want to _defend_ the bullshit I left. If you _really_ are a Catholic, then, seriously, go talk to your priest. Re-do your RCIA. If you _are_ a Catholic, then my cats are better at it than _you._

\*My editorial comment on my ex-church. Others would disagree.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/495 "2013-02-19T02:27:08Z")

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**Monty** , pchaos wants us to believe he has a law degree from Boalt Hall, which is pretty consistently ranked around No. 7 among all US law schools.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/496 "2013-02-19T02:28:52Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> (By the way my “guy who does things” philosophy, which I first named now, originates to reading the story of Kitty Genovese in some really cool book about marketing/psychology I forget the name of.

Whatever you read about Kitty Genovese is likely full of factual errors and false inferences.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/497 "2013-02-19T02:30:29Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> And Objectivism, and Communism, and Nietzsche’s particular school of thought, as you yourself acknowledged earlier.
> 
> C’mon. The least you can do is put 5 seconds on thought and reflection into it before you hit the Submit button.

And I have found none of these to be coherent philosophies and as compelling as Christianity. And the Founding Fathers were not atheists, they were the ones that coined the phrase, “in God We Trust.”

Stop your rationalizations. Ask yourself whether the ethical man would share the absolute truth if they found it. The answer of the atheist is let somebody else do the hard work. I’ll simply attack the work done by the theists.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/498 "2013-02-19T02:35:24Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> And I have found none of these to be coherent philosophies and as compelling as Christianity.

Nobody gives a shit what you think of their philosophies, **pchaos**. Only idiots care about the opinions of idiots.

> [@](#):
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> And the Founding Fathers were not atheists, they were the ones that coined the phrase, “in God We Trust.”

“In God We Trust” became the national motto in the 1950s and it doesn’t seem to date any earlier than Key writing the Star Spangled Banner. I don’t think it’s accurate to say anyone of those people were atheists in the modern sense, but even if they were, the adoption of a phrase like this wouldn’t prove they were all believers. Somehow you managed to be wrong even on this easy question.

> [@](#):
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> The answer of the atheist is let somebody else do the hard work.

Says the guy who claims to have taken his entire philosophy of life from a book he doesn’t understand.

> [@](#):
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> I’ll simply attack the work done by the theists.

You haven’t done this. You can’t even decide what you think about the things theists say.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/499 "2013-02-19T02:41:50Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Wat?

He’s a junkie. Just wait until he comes down. Then pat him on the head and say “DUDE! Do you _know_ what you did last night?” And when he says “WHAT???”, pat him on the head, and say “It’s probably best that you don’t remember”.

Then enjoy watching him squirm…

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/500 "2013-02-19T02:58:06Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> He’s a junkie. Just wait until he comes down. Then pat him on the head and say “DUDE! Do you _know_ what you did last night?” And when he says “WHAT???”, pat him on the head, and say “It’s probably best that you don’t remember”.
> 
> Then enjoy watching him squirm…

You could just about claim that I was so smashed I will not remember this tomorrow due to alcohol intoxication, based on my posts here (it is not at all the case but I recognise us substance users are basically like gays in the 1970s) but if I were under the influence of opiates (which I am not, nor alcohol or indeed anything other than caffeine ) this would make no sense.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> Of course you don’t. Here’s hoping that annoying a stranger and giving him your phone number doesn’t cause you any problems. If it does, I’ll be right here laughing my ass .

I didn’t do a 411 (is that the right term?) and call a home phone number- I obtained a work number alleged to be his by making an incredibly obvious google from melon’s links, and left a message.

Not that I have a massive objection to anyone phoning me. Conincidentally, and I ain’t making this up, I bought a new mobile phone today. I don’t mind posting the number of it up here for a week as an experiment if you’re game…

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