# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/561 "2013-02-19T15:45:43Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I doubt the person you found is me. If you find me, you will find that my stated achievements are even better than what I’ve stated. The atheists on this board will never achieve half of what I’ve achieved in my lifetime. And as far as I’m concerned my second career will even be better. > > It’s a good thing the atheists don’t offer anything, they can’t even decide on a restaurant to go to. You ‘doubt’ - You could easily follow the same clues and determine it for your self. But, instead - you like to throw more baseless crap around, and repeat a tired statement. Name one thing you’ve ‘achieved’ that no atheist on this board can match or exceed? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/562 "2013-02-19T15:48:46Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I doubt the person you found is me. If you find me, you will find that my stated achievements are even better than what I’ve stated. The atheists on this board will never achieve half of what I’ve achieved in my lifetime. And as far as I’m concerned my second career will even be better. I doubt the person I found is you, too; after all, that person is actually a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/563 "2013-02-19T15:49:15Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > At the age of 28 I was already teaching Public International Law. Possible, but it would be unusual. Most people don’t graduate from law school until age 26 or 27, especially if they take a year off to play video games. No law school would put you on the faculty within a year of graduation, unless you excelled to a remarkable degree. I’m not getting Felix Frankfurter vibes from you. Perhaps you taught Public International Law at an undergraduate institution, although I’d wager that not many offer such a specialized course. And, I would also think they would want someone with a little experience in the field. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/564 "2013-02-19T15:50:49Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I doubt the person you found is me. If you find me, you will find that my stated achievements are even better than what I’ve stated. The atheists on this board will never achieve half of what I’ve achieved in my lifetime. And as far as I’m concerned my second career will even be better. > > It’s a good thing the atheists don’t offer anything, they can’t even decide on a restaurant to go to. Keeeeeeep telling yourself that. BTW, what do you think of the polls that show “non-religious” is the fastest growing belief system in the world? I know we’ve hit a nerve because you’re ignoring those posts. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/565 "2013-02-19T15:51:39Z")
Guys. There are literally thousands of examples of theists throwing stones - not just back at atheists but at other theists too. It’s definitely more than amount of stones atheists have thrown back (if any). I’m sure we can each come up with one example and ask for a rebuttal in kind from Professor Pchaos. 1 - This would probably hit close to home seeing as how it involves Public International Law directly. > **[The Case of the Pope: Vatican Accountability for Human Rights Abuse: QC,...](https://www.amazon.com/Case-Pope-Vatican-Accountability-Rights/dp/0241953847)** > > The Case of the Pope: Vatican Accountability for Human Rights Abuse \[QC, GeoffreyRobertson\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Case of the Pope: Vatican Accountability for Human Rights Abuse is a case written by a British lawyer about how the Vatican abuses its position as a sovereign state to shelter priest-pedophiles from legal repercussions. This is not a part of any truth I would want to associate myself with. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/566 "2013-02-19T15:52:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by pchaos View Post > I doubt the person you found is me. If you find me, you will find that my stated achievements are even better than what I’ve stated. The atheists on this board will never achieve half of what I’ve achieved in my lifetime. And as far as I’m concerned my second career will even be better. > > It’s a good thing the atheists don’t offer anything, they can’t even decide on a restaurant to go to. Does god help you pick a restaurant? Because, you’re right, that can be difficult. Perhaps I shall start praying for guidance. Oh, that underlined part; color me skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/567 "2013-02-19T15:56:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Possible, but it would be unusual. Most people don’t graduate from law school until age 26 or 27, especially if they take a year off to play video games. No law school would put you on the faculty within a year of graduation, unless you excelled to a remarkable degree. I’m not getting Felix Frankfurter vibes from you. Procrustus, I’m not here to impress you. I like the way you think. From what I gather, atheism is simply your outlook on life. That I can accept. It doesn’t seem like other atheists feel that way. They somehow think that everybody especially the theists would benefit from coming to the conclusion that there’s “no God.” People would be crazy to come to that conclusion when atheists have no agenda, no organization and even no desire to go in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![iftheresaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@iftheresaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iftheresaway)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/568 "2013-02-19T15:58:18Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It’s a good thing the atheists don’t offer anything, they can’t even decide on a restaurant to go to. > [@simster](#): > > But, instead - you like to throw more baseless crap around, and repeat a tired statement. > > Name one thing you’ve ‘achieved’ that no atheist on this board can match or exceed? Um, OBVIOUSLY, this one time he picked a restaurant and everyone else was like, “Fine, whatever.” As an atheist, I know I’ve never been able to match that level of accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/569 "2013-02-19T15:58:45Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > The atheists on this board will never achieve half of what I’ve achieved in my lifetime. I certainly hope not, because all you’ve accomplished is being a fuckwit. I don’t think anyone here wants to be half-a-fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/570 "2013-02-19T15:59:11Z")
What do you think of the fact that “non-religious” is the fastest growing belief group in the world? I think it’s kind of sad that your own self-esteem is so low that you have to lie to yourself about what other people believe and do to make you feel better about yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/571 "2013-02-19T16:02:43Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > It doesn’t seem like other atheists feel that way. They somehow think that everybody especially the theists would benefit from coming to the conclusion that there’s “no God.” > > People would be crazy to come to that conclusion when atheists have no agenda, no organization and even no desire to go in that direction. We still go to work and are politically active and stuff, you know. What, exactly, is the benefit of having an “agenda” centered around pleasing a fictional character? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/572 "2013-02-19T16:06:21Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Name one thing you’ve ‘achieved’ that no atheist on this board can match or exceed? Well, he’s still alive although he’s apparently too stupid to breathe. I’m not atheist, so I obviously disagree with the atheists on this board. Yet I don’t think any of the atheists on this board is a complete idiot. Even if I did–which I don’t–I’d be very hard pressed to consider their idiocy to be on the unmatched scale of pchaos’. Oh, wait. That’s two achievements for him. He’s on a roll! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/573 "2013-02-19T16:09:14Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Procrustus, I’m not here to impress you. I like the way you think. From what I gather, atheism is simply your outlook on life. That I can accept. > > It doesn’t seem like other atheists feel that way. They somehow think that everybody especially the theists would benefit from coming to the conclusion that there’s “no God.” > > People would be crazy to come to that conclusion when atheists have no agenda, no organization and even no desire to go in that direction. And you have not impressed me. Success! Sorry to disappoint you, but I actually\*\*\* do\*\*\* think theists would benefit from coming to the conclusion that there are no gods. I just don’t care enough to try to get them there. And, given their world view that “belief” trumps “facts,” I’m not sure how you’d even go about it. I suspect many more know it than are willing to admit. On the very few occasions when I have discussed religion with someone who professes to be some sort of Christian, they end up being more what we would call “spiritual” than actually believing Jesus was the son of god and came back to life and all that crap. They like the fellowship of the church, but don’t honestly believe the hoo ha. Atheists have all kinds of agendas. Our agendas are just unrelated to being atheists, so we’re all over the map. I would like Universal Health Care, sentencing reform, and an effective plan to mitigate climate change. Other atheists have different agendas. Like all people who don’t collect stamps, we don’t necessarily have anything else in common. Hard to organize non-stamp collectors into a movement. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/574 "2013-02-19T16:09:47Z")
> [@iftheresaway](#): > > Um, OBVIOUSLY, this one time he picked a restaurant and everyone else was like, “Fine, whatever.” As an atheist, I know I’ve never been able to match that level of accomplishment. True - hell, half he time the wife and I can’t figure out where to eat , and we’re only a group of 2 - I’d hate to figure it out on a group larger than that. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/575 "2013-02-19T16:09:59Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Procrustus, I’m not here to impress you. I like the way you think. From what I gather, atheism is simply your outlook on life. That I can accept. > > It doesn’t seem like other atheists feel that way. They somehow think that everybody especially the theists would benefit from coming to the conclusion that there’s “no God.” > > People would be crazy to come to that conclusion when atheists have no agenda, no organization and even no desire to go in that direction. OK, let’s play pretend. I know you can do that since you’ve been doing it in every post you’ve made so far. Let’s say all atheists, all across the world, organize into one, single, monolithic church-like organization. They all agree with each other completely on the philosophy that you’ve suggested they come up with, as you postulate they should, since they’re all atheists and all. That “church” would be, by far, the largest single church in the entire world. Approximately one in four people in the entire world would belong to it. All other major religions are divided into denominations, many fighting amongst themselves as to which is the true Islam or the true Christianity etc. Atheists, as part of such a huge organization, would wield unstoppable political and socioeconomic power to push forth any legislation in any country they want. We would absolutely rule the world. As a God-believing person, is that what you want to see? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/576 "2013-02-19T16:10:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Do you mean he’s nowhere close to as ignorant as us? 😃 > > It \*is \*creepy, but I would have thought that he’d know better. Your name and contact information are easily searchable, so if you don’t want to be found: (1) don’t tell people you’re a lawyer, or (2) don’t use such a blindingly obvious handle. That’s irrelevant so far as Simple Linctus is concerned. Regardless of whether Pchaos acted wisely, Simple Linctus should not have taken this dispute off-board into the real world. > [@Troppus](#): > > Ideally every poster on here could claim to be a brain surgeon and we all ought to honor those claims as the gospel truth until or unless one recommends home brain surgery via hand-cranked auger. > > Maybe you missed the repeated posts wherein **pchaos** claimed to be a lawyer. He even offered free (bad) legal advice in a very touchy discussion about child pornography/pedophilia. His grasp on logic, research, grammar, and debate is nil, which caused several people to question his vocation. By making preposterous claims about his profession and assigning his online persona his real name he unfortunately offers himself up for vetting. It’s totally classless to go after him, but it’s unsurprising considering the level of trolling and shit-stirring this guy is responsible for. > > The other lawyers on this board provide a valuable resource when they offer cites, direct readers to research, and argue coherently. I appreciate having their trustworthy input on this board in the same way I appreciate the scientists, statisticians, healthcare workers, etc. I’d like to continue to have access to these valuable human resources and I don’t appreciate this guy muddying an entire hard-won profession because he’s bored and lonely. Not saying he had it coming; but I am saying that he’s getting precisely the level of attention he’s trolling for. The appropriate response is to report to a mod or open a thread asking Pchaos to be disciplined or banned, not to invade Pchaos’s life. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/577 "2013-02-19T16:15:56Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Atheists have all kinds of agendas. Our agendas are just unrelated to being atheists, so we’re all over the map. I would like Universal Health Care, sentencing reform, and an effective plan to mitigate climate change. Other atheists have different agendas. Like all people who don’t collect stamps, we don’t necessarily have anything else in common. Hard to organize non-stamp collectors into a movement. I’m in the process of starting a new business and the business isn’t even off the ground yet and I’ve already gone 3 software guys before finding a 4th that looks like he’s the right guy. It’s difficult to get people on the same page. The churches also have the same problem. It’s hard to get people to make changes to the Bible. It’s hard to get people in the pews. It’s hard to even have a church Christmas party. It’s not as easy as it looks. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/578 "2013-02-19T16:21:01Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I’m in the process of starting a new business and the business isn’t even off the ground yet and I’ve already gone 3 software guys before finding a 4th that looks like he’s the right guy. It’s difficult to get people on the same page. > > The churches also have the same problem. It’s hard to get people to make changes to the Bible. It’s hard to get people in the pews. It’s hard to even have a church Christmas party. It’s not as easy as it looks. So theists are just as unorganized as atheists? and you’re suggesting changes need to be made to the ‘bible’ ? are you not aware that it was written and complied at the hand of the ‘Holy Spirit’ or GOD him/herself? What fucking blasphemy. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/579 "2013-02-19T16:21:21Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > The churches also have the same problem. It’s hard to get people to make changes to the Bible. It’s hard to get people in the pews. It’s hard to even have a church Christmas party. It’s not as easy as it looks. What do you think of the fact that “non-religious” is the fastest growing belief group in the world? It can’t be THAT hard if us unorganized atheists can do it, right? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/580 "2013-02-19T16:23:52Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I’m in the process of starting a new business and the business isn’t even off the ground yet and I’ve already gone 3 software guys before finding a 4th that looks like he’s the right guy. It’s difficult to get people on the same page. > > The churches also have the same problem. **It’s hard to get people to make changes to the Bible**. It’s hard to get people in the pews. It’s hard to even have a church Christmas party. It’s not as easy as it looks. You keep bringing this up, and we keep ignoring it. So, since you continue to dangle this bait, I will ask. “So, what changes are you making to the Bible?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=30)