# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/681 "2013-02-19T23:23:43Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Nah, I didn’t mean you, I meant him. When you start posting utter crap like claiming to tell judges “you’re full of it Your Honor,” without getting tossed in jail for contempt of court, you’re starting to run out of material. OIC - and agreed - ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/682 "2013-02-19T23:49:50Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > I envy your rich fantasy life. Actually, my life has been like a roller-coaster, I’m not going to tell you about the bad times. But take my word for it, as much as I dislike some of you, I hope that none of you go through the pain I’ve gone through in my life. My life reads like an interesting novel. But when your actually living my life, it’s a d\_\_n scary roller-coaster. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/683 "2013-02-19T23:55:08Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Actually, my life has been like a roller-coaster, I’m not going to tell you about the bad times. But take my word for it, as much as I dislike some of you, I hope that none of you go through the pain I’ve gone through in my life. > > My life reads like an interesting novel. But when your actually living my life, it’s a d\_\_n scary roller-coaster. LOL, if you knew who you were talking to (which you never will of course) you’d realize just how comical that sounds. But hey, at least you finally responded to one of my posts. Allow me to return the courtesy by responding in your own patented style, with a non sequitur. How about those Golden Bears? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/684 "2013-02-19T23:56:35Z")
So, Carl Douglas was a classmate, eh? The one who became a member of the California Bar in 1981? Do you understand the concept of public records? You claimed you wasted your first year in law school playing Missile Command (mid 1980) and Pac-Man (late 1980), which would have you, at best, overlapping one year. Worse, one year you didn’t spend busily studying, instead wasting on video games while Mr Douglas was busy in his final year. That’s not “classmates” in even the most generous sense of the term. Even less so in law school, where 3rd year students will have limited interaction with 1st year law student video game fanatics who eventually take a year off. The most generous interpretation is you made a bald-faced lie about being classmates with an alum from a few classes ahead. The least generous interpretation is you made a bald-faced lie about being a lawyer. Either way, you’re a liar. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/685 "2013-02-20T00:01:31Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > So, Carl Douglas was a classmate, eh? > > The one who became a member of the California Bar in 1981? Do you understand the concept of public records? > > You claimed you wasted your first year in law school playing Missile Command (mid 1980) and Pac-Man (late 1980), which would have you, at best, overlapping one year. Worse, one year you didn’t spend busily studying, instead wasting on video games while Mr Douglas was busy in his final year. > > That’s not “classmates” in even the most generous sense of the term. Even less so in law school, where 3rd year students will have limited interaction with 1st year law student video game fanatics who eventually take a year off. > > The most generous interpretation is you made a bald-faced lie about being classmates with an alum from a few classes ahead. > > The least generous interpretation is you made a bald-faced lie about being a lawyer. > > Either way, you’re a liar. As much as I like you…I don’t care what you think, I don’t have to convince anybody I’m an attorney. I’m billing my clients 400/hr. and I don’t fudge on my bill to clients. When I’m online and on this website, I reduce my bill accordingly. Even though it’s probable that my clients would never find out, I really do try to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/686 "2013-02-20T00:07:11Z")
Oh, come on, people. He’s not even bothering to pretend that he’s not just trolling the shit out of this place any more. He couldn’t be more obvious if he changed his location to “under the bridge”. ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/687 "2013-02-20T00:44:22Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Beats me, I’ve been wondering what’s the point of this thread. Okay, I suppose some people are mad that I don’t take this MB serious enough. Fair enough, what can I do to make people happier? Just don’t ask me to logical. Could you give us a list of things that we should forget you ever mentioned? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/688 "2013-02-20T00:59:39Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > As much as I like you…I don’t care what you think, I don’t have to convince anybody I’m an attorney. I’m billing my clients 400/hr. and I don’t fudge on my bill to clients. When I’m online and on this website, I reduce my bill accordingly. Even though it’s probable that my clients would never find out, I really do try to do the right thing. If you don’t care about your credibility on this board, if you don’t have enough respect for us to put any degree of thought or care or effort into your posts, if it doesn’t matter to you what the quality of responses are to your comments, then how is it worth your time and effort to post here at all? Surely a lawyer who bills $400 an hour can find another way to spend his time that gets him something, anything at all, in return. And that’s the biggest problem with you. You have no respect for the fact that there’s a group of people here willing to pit in the time, effort, and thought into reading your comment and responding to you. Even if you aren’t intentionally trolling, that makes you an asshole. And what would Jesus say about that? ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/689 "2013-02-20T01:20:01Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > As much as I like you…I don’t care what you think, I don’t have to convince anybody I’m an attorney. I’m billing my clients 400/hr. and I don’t fudge on my bill to clients. When I’m online and on this website, I reduce my bill accordingly. Even though it’s probable that my clients would never find out, I really do try to do the right thing. 20+ years as a lawyer and you’re billing only $400/hour? Your career has been sad. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/690 "2013-02-20T01:27:27Z")
No kidding. My lawyer friend is around the $400 range, but he’s only been in practice for 5 years. I’m only a geophysicist, but my company still bills more than $400 for my work. And in Texas that’s real money. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/691 "2013-02-20T02:16:43Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If you don’t care about your credibility on this board, if you don’t have enough respect for us to put any degree of thought or care or effort into your posts, if it doesn’t matter to you what the quality of responses are to your comments, then how is it worth your time and effort to post here at all? Well, if a thousand monkeys striking keys on a thousand typewriters can occassionaly type something intelligible, then surely there’s a chance that one… > [@](#): > > Surely a lawyer who bills $400 an hour can find another way to spend his time that gets him something, anything at all, in return. That says more about the customer than the purported provider. He may bill $400 an hour and may even get $400 an hour. Is the product actually worth $400 to the discerning client, though? > [@](#): > > And that’s the biggest problem with you. You have no respect for the fact that there’s a group of people here willing to **pit** in the time, effort, and thought into reading your comment and responding to you. {Bolding above is mine, to direct attention.} That is now my favorite Freudian Slip on these Boards! If it had been anyone else to whom you directed that comment, it wouldn’t’ve been the gold that it is. > [@](#): > > Even if you aren’t intentionally trolling, that makes you an asshole. And what would Jesus say about that? This ought to be good. pchaos hasn’t demonstrated all that much understanding of Christianity or its founding tome. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/692 "2013-02-20T04:01:20Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Minimal, I smoked but didn’t inhale. You smoked LSD, but didn’t inhale? You’re the biggest moron there is. > [@pchaos](#): > > Apparently, you are proud that the scientific method has a way of testing and double-checking facts. Also, it’s a logical system. > > But if that’s such a good system of analysis, you would think that you could come up with a better philosophy than Ayn Rand’s. Okay, that’s a bad example, it seems like both theists and atheists dislike her. > > But to simply leave it at each person becomes more authentic, that also says little or nothing. > > Since a coherent philosophy really hasn’t emerged from atheists, the general public will infer that the scientific method or whatever method an atheist chooses to use isn’t that valuable. > [@pchaos](#): > > If science and logic were really that valuable they would be able generate a coherent world view. Otherwise, I will think of them as no more valuable than money, it is a means to an end and nothing more. > [@pchaos](#): > > Religious people do not question the value of technology…they are wondering when it will lead to an advance in ethics or morals. So far it hasn’t, and it also appears that there is no desire to even go in that direction. Dear Christ almighty, would you shut your steaming idiot hole? If it weren’t for science, you’d run screaming into the nearest cave, performing some bloody penance while wondering exactly which sin you committed that warrants God’s extreme fury the next time a fucking comet whooshes by. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/693 "2013-02-20T04:50:40Z")
Science is supposed to come up with a worldview? Silly me; I thought it was a method of obeservation. Logic is supposed to come up iwth a worldview? Silly me; I thought it was a method of thinking. Seriously, pchaos. You really should shut your piehole as the poster above pleaded (that’s a lawyer word you should know if you are, in fact, a lawyer). You have demonstrated nothing so far to indicate that you have any practical knowledge of anything whatsoever in anything you’ve said on this boards thus far. At this point, my money (so to speak) is on the lone monkey in front of a keyboard theory. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/694 "2013-02-20T05:12:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > At this point, my money (so to speak) is on the lone monkey in front of a keyboard theory. Why insult the monkey? ---
**Author:** ![Molesworth\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Molesworth\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molesworth_2)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/695 "2013-02-20T12:57:32Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > …the desire to be God-centered instead of self-centered. To me that is objective. Well that’s your problem right there…😛 I’m pretty damned sure that I exist. I’ve never seen any objective argument that a “god” exists. Again, how did this “god” individual come to be? At some point in the far distant past existence itself was created. It seems to me that this must have happened in one of two ways\*: * * * 1/ Existence, and hence the universe, just suddenly popped into being That sounds unbelievably improbable, but to me it’s still far more likely than the alternative: * * * 2/ An omnipotent being just suddenly popped into being, and that omnipotent being miraculously had the power to then create an entire universe from scratch. He knows when you’ve been sleeping. He knows when you’re awake. He knows when you’ve been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake. If you don’t worship “Him” he’ll cast you into a lake of fire for all eternity. He’ll do this because he “loves” you, not because he’s a creepy control-freak stalker with a severe case of narcissistic personality disorder. * * * \*There may be an infinite number of other scenarios beyond our ability to comprehend. There may be an infinite number of universes. But I see no reason to believe that some all-powerful deity created any of this reality we all experience, because any deity-centered explanation of reality does not answer the inevitable follow-up question: **“How was god created?”** Atheism to me is just the simple and rational process of cutting out a wholly unnecessary and rather unlikely middleman when trying to explain the existence of reality itself. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/696 "2013-02-20T12:59:37Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > My life reads like an interesting novel. You misspelled “shitty webcomic.” ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/697 "2013-02-20T13:02:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@pchaos](#): > > > > Beats me, I’ve been wondering what’s the point of this thread.Okay, I suppose some people are mad that I don’t take this MB serious enough. Fair enough, what can I do to make people happier? Just don’t ask me to logical. > > The point of this thread is that you are uninformed on the topics you choose to write about, that you frequently post misinformation, that your arguments are fallacious, that you are generally incoherent. You contribute no knowledge or insight to the discussions you participate in, and engaging you is a fool’s game. You are an idiot who makes the world around you a stupider place to live in. > > That’s all this thread is about. Too many big words for him. You have to keep it simple for this fool. Try this: Well, DUH! It’s the Pit. The point of this thread is to point out your foolishness, and call you a fool for it. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/698 "2013-02-20T13:34:17Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > The reason most people never question their faith is because it’s compartmentalized. For all practical purposes, there is no significant difference between the atheist and the Sunday churchgoer because the latter never allows his or her faith to actually impinge upon daily decisions or activities. This is the category you fall into. > > You say that your actions are inspired by god but you have no concept whatsoever of what god or even faith is. All you have is some amorphous notion of what you believe is right and wrong which you make up as you go along and you pretend that “god” is going to back you up on these decisions. > > Your “theology” is such a sloppy ball of dust bunnies and spittle that you don’t deserve to be the subject of any serious discussion. I appreciate your comment because it’s thoughtful and recognizes that my return to Christianity has really just been a fairly recent development. I’m learning and I’m praying. I realize I have a long ways to go. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/699 "2013-02-20T13:39:06Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > 20+ years as a lawyer and you’re billing only $400/hour? Your career has been sad. Actually, a lot depends on your area of practice and the city you practice in. If your in a big city like SF or if you do patent law in Palo Alto, you would bill a lot more of course. But I’m happy with my little practice. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/700 "2013-02-20T13:50:45Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > And now you’ve decided you don’t like being a lawyer and are going to do something else. Ever think perhaps he was right? 😃 Sometimes I do, that’s why I want to go into a new business and a second career. I suppose I could retire instead and enjoy the rest of my days, but that would be booooring. I want to see if I can make it in a completely different business. And whether you guys want to know about it or not. In the near future, you will be one of the first to know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=36)