# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/701 "2013-02-20T13:54:54Z")
I’m reminded of the Alan Trolling Test: If the responses produced during an interaction are indistinguishable from those a troll would produce, it’s time to pull the plug. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/702 "2013-02-20T13:56:42Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The point of this thread is that you are uninformed on the topics you choose to write about, that you frequently post misinformation, that your arguments are fallacious, that you are generally incoherent. You contribute no knowledge or insight to the discussions you participate in, and engaging you is a fool’s game. You are an idiot who makes the world around you a stupider place to live in. Hmmmm…I see you are being polite. Tell me what you really think. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/703 "2013-02-20T13:59:15Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > 20+ years as a lawyer and you’re billing only $400/hour? Your career has been sad. $400/hour is the high end of the range of civil defense fees in a number of states (and not just tiny ones). ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/704 "2013-02-20T14:02:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > $400/hour is the high end of the range of civil defense fees in a number of states (and not just tiny ones). Are you an attorney? Remember, you would be a fool to answer that, we have a tough crowd here. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/705 "2013-02-20T14:03:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > $400/hour is the high end of the range of civil defense fees in a number of states (and not just tiny ones). ??? Here in NC, we’re paying 700 for the important stuff. When I worked for a firm in Ohio, our partners billed 600 - as a summer intern they we’re billing me out at 150 (that was like 7 years ago). ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/706 "2013-02-20T14:08:14Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > ??? > > Here in NC, we’re paying 700 for the important stuff. When I worked for a firm in Ohio, our partners billed 600 - as a summer intern they we’re billing me out at 150 (that was like 7 years ago). My guess is that you practice in Charlotte, you make a lot more bucks in the big cities. In CA in order to make real money, you need to be in entertainment law practicing in LA. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/707 "2013-02-20T14:09:34Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I appreciate your comment because it’s thoughtful and recognizes \*\*that my return to Christianity has really just been a fairly recent development. \*\*I’m learning and I’m praying. I realize I have a long ways to go. another change to your backstory - and it directly contradicts a different post where you state that people ‘over 21’ don’t change their beliefs. (assuming you’re not actually 12) ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/708 "2013-02-20T14:12:29Z")
> [@simster](#): > > another change to your backstory - and it directly contradicts a different post where you state that people ‘over 21’ don’t change their beliefs. (assuming you’re not actually 12) Give me a break, I’m approaching retirement age and I’m getting senile. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/709 "2013-02-20T14:13:16Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Are you an attorney? No. > [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > ??? > > Here in NC, we’re paying 700 for the important stuff. When I worked for a firm in Ohio, our partners billed 600 - as a summer intern they we’re billing me out at 150 (that was like 7 years ago). For _defense_ work? Or for contingency stuff? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/710 "2013-02-20T14:16:41Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Sometimes I do, that’s why I want to go into a new business and a second career. I suppose I could retire instead and enjoy the rest of my days, but that would be booooring. I want to see if I can make it in a completely different business. \*\* And whether you guys want to know about it or not. In the near future, you will be one of the first to know.\*\* You planning on advertising here? You realize you could be selling ice water in hell and no one here would buy it - right? In fact - we would (likely) ORGANIZE to make sure no one buys your crap - anywhere - you may want to re-consider your decision to announce it here. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/711 "2013-02-20T14:18:01Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Give me a break, I’m approaching retirement age and I’m getting senile. nope - you’re not ‘getting’ senile - you’re a fucking troll that can’t keep his story straight. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/712 "2013-02-20T14:18:49Z")
> [@simster](#): > > You planning on advertising here? You realize you could be selling ice water in hell and no one here would buy it - right? > > In fact - we would (likely) ORGANIZE to make sure no one buys your crap - anywhere - you may want to re-consider your decision to announce it here. You are a friendly guy. Don’t practice law, with an attitude like that, the experienced attorneys will cut you up into little pieces. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/713 "2013-02-20T14:21:35Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Actually, a lot depends on your area of practice and the city you practice in. Speaking of which, what _is_ your area of practice? I couldn’t care less what the city is. Come to think of it, I’m starting to think the city you believe in which you practice is Hooterville. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/714 "2013-02-20T14:26:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Come to think of it, I’m starting to think the city you believe in which you practice is Hooterville. Et tu Brutus? Come on guys, it’s early here in Fremont, CA. I thought we were having a friendly conversation. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/715 "2013-02-20T14:27:45Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > You are a friendly guy. Don’t practice law, with an attitude like that, the experienced attorneys will cut you up into little pieces. I’m not an attorney - the attorney’s I’ve spoken with have been reasonably impressed with my limited knowledge and how I phrase my arguments - and I have never lost a case that I have been involved in. YOu can take your ‘advice’ and stick it with the rest of your ‘knowledge’. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/716 "2013-02-20T14:31:32Z")
> [@simster](#): > > YOu can take your ‘advice’ and stick it with the rest of your ‘knowledge’. Okay, you have a legitimate beef. I suppose you’re talking about the advice I gave to that guy in Canada. I do apologize, it really was off the cuff. To be frank, I thought the guy needed the help of a psychologist much more than the help of an attorney. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/717 "2013-02-20T14:37:55Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Okay, you have a legitimate beef. I suppose you’re talking about the advice I gave to that guy in Canada. I do apologize, it really was off the cuff. To be frank, I thought the guy needed the help of a psychologist much more than the help of an attorney. Now you’re ‘Frank’ ? is this another metaphor? 😃 Had you said that in the thread - “IMHO, I think you need help of ‘a’ more than ‘b’” and not what you did post - which showed you had zero reading comprehension or had not read the thread and then you offered such obviously ‘bad’ advice (as an attorney, no less) based on the OP itself - we wouldn’t be here - My dad used to tell me - “Put your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion” - perhaps you should check that clutch or your transmission is faulty. And since you have yet to show that you have any intention of changing your demeanor or your posting habits - you’re still a troll and the apology is only conditionally accepted - perhaps you should go back to that thread and apologize for your post as a sign of contrition… ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/718 "2013-02-20T14:40:52Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > And whether you guys want to know about it or not. In the near future, you will be one of the first to know. That depends. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/719 "2013-02-20T14:42:19Z")
> [@simster](#): > > And since you have yet to show that you have any intention of changing your demeanor or your posting habits - you’re still a troll and the apology is only conditionally accepted - perhaps you should go back to that thread and apologize for your post as a sign of contrition… Look, I hate to remind you guys. I’m sure you all take this MB seriously, but it is still a MB. I don’t even know why a guy in Canada would go to a MB for advice on such a sensitive issue. I know that I wouldn’t. On SDMB you’re going to get all kinds of sarcastic advice. Right Czarcasm? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/720 "2013-02-20T14:42:25Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Et tu Brutus? Come on guys, it’s early here in Fremont, CA. I thought we were having a friendly conversation. If you want a friendly conversation, you’ll answer the question put to you: In what area of law do you practice? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=37)