# It is implausible that pchaos is a lawyer and he should stop claiming to be one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316 "2013-02-14T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/121 "2013-02-15T17:16:00Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > That’s not true, we’ve all gone through the educational system in the U.S. No, there are a lot of people here educated in other countries. > [@pchaos](#): > > I suppose you believe that atheists believe they live more “authentically” because they don’t delude themselves about God. I don’t know if authentically is the right word: perhaps more freely. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/122 "2013-02-15T17:16:55Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I suppose you believe that atheists believe they live more “authentically” because they don’t delude themselves about God. > > But almost every world view feels the same way. People feel that they are living more “authentically” because they are not deluded by \_\_\_\_\_. With all that you’ve gotten wrong so far, you’d think that you would have at least learned not to “suppose” so much. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/123 "2013-02-15T17:24:04Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I’m just a practical guy, if atheism doesn’t help me to improve my life it isn’t worth dwelling on. There’s a really simple solution to this one. Stop dwelling on it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/124 "2013-02-15T17:24:07Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > That’s not true, we’ve all gone through the educational system in the U.S. and learned all about the scientific method. However, I for one do not plan to live my life worshiping science or logic. > > I’m just a practical guy, if atheism doesn’t help me to improve my life it isn’t worth dwelling on. I’m not interested in learning more about the scientific method or logic…I’ve had 20 years of that training. You’ve been provided the definition of atheism a dozen times. You ought to know that it is independent of the scientific method or logic. One sure doesn’t have to be brilliant to be an attorney, but I’m confident that one cannot be as grossly stupid as pchaos and be one. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/125 "2013-02-15T17:27:36Z")
I don’t mod The Pit, so I’m just speaking as a poster when I suggest nobody argue with **pchaos** as atheism in this thread. There are probably 20 pages of other posts about that. This is a Pitting, so just tell him how stupid and whiny he’s being and what a miserable failure all of his arguments are. ---
**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/126 "2013-02-15T17:29:40Z")
> [@simster](#): > > The biggest difference between an average atheist and an average theist - is that by and large, the atheist is willing to accept new data that conflicts with his/her previous views and wiegh them appropriately - the average theist will ignore such things - especially when it conflicts with his/her ‘faith’ - as you have illustrated quite nicely over your tenure here at the dope. That’s what you would like to believe. But non-atheists believe the same thing about their own world views also. Because I pray, I have a continuing dialogue with God and I am better able to respond to the demands of life. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/127 "2013-02-15T17:31:11Z")
If I believed in God, I’d feel bad he has to listen to you all the time. I’ve only had to listen to your bullshit for a couple of weeks and I can’t imagine a lifetime or an eternity of absorbing that kind of stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/128 "2013-02-15T17:32:14Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > That’s what you would like to believe. But non-atheists believe the same thing about their own world views also. Because I pray, I have a continuing dialogue with God and I am better able to respond to the demands of life. You are stupid and whiny and a miserable failure. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/129 "2013-02-15T17:32:46Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > I’m just a practical guy, if atheism doesn’t help me to improve my life it isn’t worth dwelling on. I’m not interested in learning more about the scientific method or logic…I’ve had 20 years of that training. So wait, you believe in God, but if atheists could convince you that they could offer you a better deal, you’d switch to NOT believing in God, just like that? And so, you’re gonna stick with the God thing, because eh, too much _thinking_ involved in being an atheist? _snerk_ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/130 "2013-02-15T17:34:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think **Northern Piper** is also a lawyer and is Canadian. **Spoons** and **Muffin** also, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/131 "2013-02-15T17:36:52Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > That’s what you would like to believe. But non-atheists believe the same thing about their own world views also. Because I pray, I have a continuing dialogue with God and I am better able to respond to the demands of life. what the fuck is a ‘non-athiest’ ? ANd I never said that they didn’t believe … You know what - never mind - my post stands and you continue to prove that you are unwilling or unable to ‘get it’ ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/132 "2013-02-15T17:41:23Z")
I’m a pretty feeble debator, as I take too long to formulate posts for someplace as fast as the SD… but I do think I’m a good judge of character and intent. Pchaos may/may not be a lawyer…seems unlikely, but his confusing use of language even stumps me!! Its almost like Internet Aspbergers syndrome takes over…the liens…haha typo lines get drawn over some miniscule definition of disagreement… and the discussion just loses any focus. Not responding to trolling behavior is almost as hard as responding is.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/133 "2013-02-15T17:43:22Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > The general public isn’t interested in hearing that atheists are living satisfying lives. The theists already have satisfying lives, they are like me they want to live at the top of their meters…they want to live better lives and atheists have little to offer in that regard. You _are_ a sad, broken little toy, aren’t you. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/134 "2013-02-15T17:43:24Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > He’s not, for what it’s worth. He just mentioned it yesterday. Correct, and have never claimed to be such. I’m a helluva good cook, though. ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/135 "2013-02-15T17:47:12Z")
> [@pchaos](#): > > Good point, but after posting off and on for a month and a half, all I’ve found out is atheists are all different. The general public isn’t interested in hearing that atheists are living satisfying lives. The theists already have satisfying lives, they are like me they want to live at the top of their meters…they want to live better lives and atheists have little to offer in that regard. And just exactly what color IS the sky in your world? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/136 "2013-02-15T17:48:08Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > If I believed in God, I’d feel bad he has to listen to you all the time. I’ve only had to listen to your bullshit for a couple of weeks and I can’t imagine a lifetime or an eternity of absorbing that kind of stupidity. So what I hear you saying is… **pchaos** is just another reason to doubt the existence of a (benevolent) god. Compelling. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/137 "2013-02-15T17:53:17Z")
Clearly his faith is weak and wavering, so, like the anti-gay-rights crusaders who cannot stay out of the men’s room at the park, he is continuously flirting with atheism before righteously returning to his church, telling himself it is not for him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/138 "2013-02-15T17:57:07Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > So what I hear you saying is… **pchaos** is just another reason to doubt the existence of a (benevolent) god. Compelling. Not really. He is so logically incomprehensible that at best he can be used to show that religion can possibly lead to brain damage. ---
**Author:** ![Banana\_Pancake\_Flipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@Banana\_Pancake\_Flipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banana_Pancake_Flipper)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/139 "2013-02-15T17:57:24Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > The problem (other than the general problem of it being dickish to make things up) is if you talk about legal matters while representing yourself as an attorney you may be taken more seriously than you should be. No, the problem is people who actually believe they’re getting legitimate legal advice from an anonymous internet message board. You want legal advice? Go to a lawyer. You want a hack (or twelve) pretneding to be a lawyer? Ask your question on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316/140 "2013-02-15T18:00:55Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You might be able to get him with the “Labrador” part, but he is either telling the truth about being a “Deceiver”, or he’s lying about being a “Deceiver”… in which case he’s still telling the truth about being a “Deceiver”. Well, that’s logic for ya. I don’t buy the German Shepherd bit, either. Thinking on it, I guess he could be even more Deceptive by only Deceiving part time and telling the truth when it could lead to further Deception later. That’s some deep thinking on his handle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-implausible-that-pchaos-is-a-lawyer-and-he-should-stop-claiming-to-be-one/650316.md?page=8)