# " It is polite fiction that we consider adopted children to be equal to biological children. "

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 11, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282 "2020-03-11T17:13:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/1 "2020-03-11T17:13:48Z")

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A direct quote from **AlTraina** in [this Pit Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22183593#post22183593)

I put that idea right up there with the rah-rah Christian who told me the children my sister’s wife had and my sister adopted are not my nieces, and their taking in a dying woman and her two daughters and arranging to adopt the children was an act of child abuse.

Your thoughts?

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**Author:** ![AlTraina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/altraina/32/50_2.png) [@AlTraina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlTraina)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/2 "2020-03-11T17:14:46Z")

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I think you should spend more time at Amazing Savings and less time on here.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/3 "2020-03-11T17:19:17Z")

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Trolls this obvious are no fun to pit.

Stop trying so hard **AlTraina** , you look desperate.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/4 "2020-03-11T17:21:12Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Your thoughts?

Obvious troll is trolling.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/5 "2020-03-11T17:22:13Z")

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Yeah, garden-variety troll with “edgy” statements and boring insults. He’s not worth the outrage.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/6 "2020-03-11T17:22:50Z")

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I propose we jump ahead to guessing what banned poster this sock represents.

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**Author:** ![Calavera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calavera/32/70_2.png) [@Calavera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calavera)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/7 "2020-03-11T17:23:09Z")

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> [@AlTraina](#):
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> I think you should spend more time at Amazing Savings and less time on here.

You’re a troll, but you’re not wrong.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/8 "2020-03-11T17:25:29Z")

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He’s also not a Mod. But thanks for the plug.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/9 "2020-03-11T18:27:46Z")

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He’s posted nearly 50 times since he signed up yesterday morning. (Might not be ‘nearly’ by the time I hit ‘post.’) I don’t think he’s a banned poster that we’d remember, but rather some random asshole that stumbled across this site.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/10 "2020-03-11T18:29:35Z")

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And yeah, the sentence quoted in the thread title is blatantly false.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/11 "2020-03-11T18:31:04Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> A direct quote from **AlTraina** in [this Pit Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22183593#post22183593)
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> I put that idea right up there with the rah-rah Christian who told me the children my sister’s wife had and my sister adopted are not my nieces, and their taking in a dying woman and her two daughters and arranging to adopt the children was an act of child abuse.
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> Your thoughts?

I know several families with both adopted and biological children (not casual acquaintances, but families I know quite well), and have never noticed a difference between how the children are treated.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/12 "2020-03-11T18:36:06Z")

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> [@AlTraina](#):
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> I think you should spend more time at Amazing Savings and less time on here.

You know, trolling isn’t the best way to spam.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/13 "2020-03-11T18:42:11Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I propose we jump ahead to guessing what banned poster this sock represents.

I’m trying to think of one that had this brand of offensive stupidity. SamuelA maybe?

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> He’s posted nearly 50 times since he signed up yesterday morning. (Might not be ‘nearly’ by the time I hit ‘post.’) I don’t think he’s a banned poster that we’d remember, but rather some random asshole that stumbled across this site.

Take a look:

> [@AlTraina](#):
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> I think you should spend more time at Amazing Savings and less time on here.

A newbie wouldn’t go straight to this.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/14 "2020-03-11T18:52:27Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I don’t think he’s a banned poster that we’d remember, but rather some random asshole that stumbled across this site.

Using a board meme from [2014](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=722215)?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/15 "2020-03-11T19:09:15Z")

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Maybe he’s a prodigy?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/16 "2020-03-11T19:21:00Z")

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I don’t know.  
I think that anyone that would adopt a child is likely to be the sort of person that would love that child.  
I have a couple of close lifelong friends, each with adopted kids and I know that they would die for their adopted child.  
But if put in a “sophie’s choice” sort of situation, I don’t know what they would do.

Maybe that’s more an indictment of my character than anything else.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/17 "2020-03-11T20:13:50Z")

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I have a friend who has both an adopted kid, and a ‘natural’ kid, and they treat them both exactly the same. Both are girls, and they are almost 1 year apart [one is actually some sort of cousin, the birth mother had health issues and couldn’t keep her] but because of the birth months they are both in the same grade. I think most people wouldn’t think tha tone is adopted, they probably think they are some sort of non-identical twins, they look very similar.

I think there is no difference between a natural kid and an adopted one, you are given the same ‘ownership’ requirements for both - the law doesn’t say that you can treat the adopted one like Oliver Twist or Annie or something.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/18 "2020-03-11T20:14:43Z")

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The SDMB is really going downhill - we used to attract a higher class of troll. Nothing about pyramids, no suggestion that the ruling classes of Europe were actually Obama in disguise, not even a link to how Oswald was framed on 9/11.

_:sighs nostalgically:_

Those were the days - when men were men, cats were declawed, and everyone knew which rest room to use. (Unless they were Larry Craig).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/19 "2020-03-11T20:39:11Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Those were the days - when men were men…

Except for the circumcised ones.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-polite-fiction-that-we-consider-adopted-children-to-be-equal-to-biological-children/849282/20 "2020-03-11T23:06:48Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Except for the circumcised ones.

TRIGGER WARNING, please.

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