The people on Lost expected to be rescued. You don’t need a policeman standing over you every second to remind you that there are penalties for rape and murder. Even if your thought is only “I hope in ten years when I’m rescued, they don’t arrest me” then the function of police in a civilized society is still active for you.
In addition, human behavior is highly influenced by outside factors, including other people. Let’s look at something like pet rocks. Who would have thought pet rocks would arise? Certainly, the idea of a silly fad isn’t news to sociologists, but there’s no scientist in the world who could have predicted that rocks were about to make it into the big time. So if we took ten groups of random Lost survivors (who expect no rescue), I would predict that some will maintain happy civilized order and some will descend into violent chaos.
But coming back to the Stanford Prison Experiment… that is real. And it took a matter of weeks for normal college students to turn into brutal jailers. You cannot overlook something like that. If you think Lost is how real life would turn out, I think you’re living with a fantasy based on how we want to think we behave. The truth about people is so much darker than we’re willing to admit to ourselves.
The Stanford Prison Experiment (SPE) is used in 100 level psychology courses as the epitome of a poorly run, biased, and unreliable experiment.
Any one of these experimental issues would disqualify anything that could be called “science.” Back to the Adam Smith idea, their manufactured results fits in perfectly with the “people are by nature bad” way of thinking, but the results are just too messed up to be taken seriously at all.
News Flash: Bothering or harming White Americans is usually the fastest way for the police to get called and for an entire neighborhood to get harassed.
White people are lot safer in a majority poor Black or Latino neighborhood than Blacks or Latinos are in any majority White one.
Not technically since we are apes. I can’t draw accurate information from wars and Somalia-like nations because those aren’t Apocalypse level conditions. Chimps, for example, may answer to a few other Chimps that are tougher or more sophisticated in terms of group dynamics, but they have no morals and no politics, so no real authorities. They are closer to pure savagery than any human condition extant.
That was so funny … thank you, thank you very much, I needed that laugh. I hope your notions don’t lure you too often to dangerous urban/ethnic neighborhoods late at night. If so, drive a car you don’t really like and don’t bring too much cash. Best of luck, and take good care.
I actually thought New Orleans after hurricane Katrina was a good example of people not being such shits(well it seemed the authorities were more on the inherently bad side than the populace).
There was an incredible amount of LOOTING, but very little murder and rape. The lurid rumors and internet posts from eye witnesses turned out to be nonsense, I can remember people seriously claiming rumors of cannibalism(this wasn’t on Stormfront).
There is video footage out there maybe on Youtube of a crowded Walmart being looted by thousands of people, including female police officers in uniform filling a cart with shoes. There were women, children, all sorts of people looting that Walmart and they were all doing it very peacefully and non-violent.
The city itself (besides the flooding) didn’t seem to have been in such chaos. The problem was the large amounts of people that gathered in the Superdome, and that this was seemingly done with not much thought about what would happen after the hurricane. It seems provisions for the semi long-term well being of the people there was not made. Like they thought “Hey, it’s only one night/day, and then everyone can go home.” And this was not the case.
Otherwise, the city may have looked like a ghost town, but it wasn’t necessarily any worse than what it usually was.
Not to mention that, as soon as they could, lots of them fled the city. I remember living in Baton Rouge and the news about overcrowding and finishing housing projects quickly to accomodate the influx. We also had set up a refuge for New Orleans people with medical conditions and two for animals who had to be abandoned by their owners (either temporarily or long-term).
And again, being in Baton Rouge, I don’t remember news of mass murders and rapes and stateless things going on in New Orleans. I think those are greatly exagerated (besides Superdome).