# It seems minor conflict in Iraq is more deadly than major conflict. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862 "2003-08-27T00:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/21 "2003-08-27T01:50:48Z")
Watch your toes there scylla. And what the hell positive is there in this god forsaken war? You are in the oil business aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/22 "2003-08-27T01:54:31Z")
Ah, they’re 1920’s style “Reeder Threads”. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/23 "2003-08-27T01:59:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RedFury \* > \*\*So you think they are “bastards” because they are fighting back the American invaders? How wonderfully simplistic of you. \*\* Ah, **RedFury** , long time no see. How nice of you to drop in. I suppose you’ve been busy aiding in the rebuilding of Iraq? Perhaps you’ve donated money to [Red Crescent](http://www.ifrc.org/WHAT/disasters/response/iraq.asp) to help with rebuilding Iraq? As to why I think they’re bastards, let’s see, we’ve got reports of Al Qaeda fighters racing to Iraq in hopes of killing Americans. Not exactly like they’re defending their homeland, now is it? Of course, that comes from US news sources, so no doubt you’ll consider it to more propaganda from the US. Of course, there is that little matter of the truck bomb used to kill the folks from the UN, and the fact that the _majority_ of Iraqis, no matter how they may feel about having US troops in their country _aren’t_ shooting at US soldiers every chance they get. Yeah, that makes 'em bastards in my book. Still waiting for you to provide a peaceful solution for getting Saddam out of Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/24 "2003-08-27T02:03:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > **I get so fricking mad I have to post.** Perhaps a blog would be more to your liking. That way, you can write whatever you like without fear of someone else coming along and challenging your asinine rants. In the meantime, I’m wishing you into the cornfield. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/25 "2003-08-27T02:05:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*…Still waiting for you to provide a peaceful solution for getting Saddam out of Iraq. \*\* Don’t be so fucking hard-headed. It is obvious that if GW channeled love and hugs through a topaz crystal, augmented by a steady humming from the UNSC, Saddam would have seen the error of his ways, and left. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/26 "2003-08-27T02:18:19Z")
Well…we went to war with Iraq. We saw the state of Saddams military. Not one aircraft went into battle. No WMD. No nukes. No real uniformed military. I do agree the Fedahyeen put up a fight. Not even any real weapons programs. He was a threat all right. Look! Kim Jong Il! ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/27 "2003-08-27T02:24:31Z")
You forgot the scented candles. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/28 "2003-08-27T02:59:28Z")
Reeder: Nice to see that you have begun posting more of your threads in the BBQ Pit. It’s kind of like GD, without all the high falootin’ politeness. Sometimes I find it very refreshing. What senario could you envision in Iraq that would make it seem, if not worthwhile, at least a net benefit for the world that so many of our brave troops have given their lives? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/29 "2003-08-27T03:00:21Z")
And since we’re now counting accidents and medical problems in our death count, I wonder how many deaths there would be in a population of 175,000 other people engaged in physical work? And I am SICK AND TIRED of the media’s goddamned death count, with each one prefaced with, “And that makes X people killed since President Bush declared major combat operations over.” You want to report the deaths, fine. I understand the media’s need to be dramatic regardless of cost. But can we at least can the little cheap shot that follows every shooting? It isn’t becoming supposedly non-biased news reporting. And how come no one is writing about the positive stuff? Like the 65,000 Iraqi men that have been hired as police, and are being shipped to Eastern Europe for an 8-week intensive police training course? Or the fact that regional councils are now up and running in all areas? Or that Iraqi courts are up and running, and have been giving autonomy and authority to try the people the U.S. has captured (and have been releasing some according to their law, without complaint from the U.S.)? Look, we all know there are problems in Iraq. Serious problems. But a BALANCED view should also include the things that are going right, so people can judge both and decide for themselves what the overall picture looks like. By only reporting the bad stuff, the media is creating a picture of Iraq as a totally chaotic violent hellhole. And that’s just not the case. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/30 "2003-08-27T03:00:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamar Mundane \* > \*\*Welcome to the Straight Dope Second Grade Debate and Hair-pulling Club… \*\* Where Reeder’s not just the president, he’s also a client. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/31 "2003-08-27T03:11:06Z")
Mr Stone…where these troops not in Iraq at Mr Bushe’s bequest…they would not be there for the accidents to happen. As for the regional councils and courts…were they elected or appointed? As for the police…the course is two years not 8 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/32 "2003-08-27T03:11:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Watch your toes there scylla. > > And what the hell positive is there in this god forsaken war? You are in the oil business aren’t you? \*\* Oh that’s rich. At least be accurate and accuse him of being on cahoots with the current administration. There are plenty of oil companies that _ain’t_ making a dime off this war. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/33 "2003-08-27T03:12:27Z")
Name one. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/34 "2003-08-27T03:14:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Mr Stone…where these troops not in Iraq at Mr Bushe’s bequest…they would not be there for the accidents to happen. > \*\* Of course other accidents would be _continuing_. The real shame of it was there were some valid reasons to go in, it’s just that Bush trumped up the wrong angle. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/35 "2003-08-27T03:20:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Name one. \*\* Russia’s Lukoil, which lost a fat contract because of the impending war. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/36 "2003-08-27T03:48:38Z")
Is that tumbleweed blowing through your thread **Reeder**? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/37 "2003-08-27T03:55:24Z")
[AAAAAGGGHHHHH!!!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=207403) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/38 "2003-08-27T03:55:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Is that tumbleweed blowing through your thread **Reeder**? \*\* As usual, \*\*[**reeder** ’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3899748) packed his bags and moved onto another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/39 "2003-08-27T03:56:41Z")
AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862/40 "2003-08-27T04:33:24Z")
Hey Reeder,you’re more likely to get murdered in California (6.6 per day) than Iraq (1.7 per day). It must be a “quagmire”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-minor-conflict-in-iraq-is-more-deadly-than-major-conflict/197862.md?page=3)