# It Sucks To Be Dying!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 9, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636 "2015-07-09T04:09:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![mrclose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@mrclose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrclose)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/61 "2015-07-18T07:33:18Z")

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WOW!  
Those last two post (especially the last one) were amazing!

Science?

God gave us our ability to think.  
How could we ever know our maker?

Does a child say, “Mom, Thank You for my life”?

If an atheist and a Christian can’t prove either of their belief’s … why choose the negative?  
Atheists, in my opinion are illogical and maybe a little mean?

Logic dictates that since we don’t know … Why not hope for the best?

I have never met an atheist that could Prove to me that God does not exist and likewise … I have never proved to an atheist that God does indeed exist!

So Why does an atheist insist that I have no hope?  
I am going to die and … That is it?  
(meanie)😃

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**Author:** ![mrclose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@mrclose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrclose)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/62 "2015-07-18T07:43:13Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> Well I’m an atheist but I certainly wish there was an afterlife and I would be with my loved ones, but I don’t believe in my heart that its true.

You are not an atheist!  
You have hope (you wish) my friend!

I know this much …  
Jesus Christ was a real person.  
(Many non Christians attest to that)

Now either the man named Jesus was a complete whack job or he was who he said he was.

If he was who he (and many others) say he was … why would anyone lay claim to be an atheist?  
Agnostic?  
Sure.

Atheist?  
Not logical.

Ask yourself … Do you believe that Jesus existed?

There is as much evidence that he did as there is evidence that Plato existed.

Crazy guy or Son of God?  
You decide.

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**Author:** ![mrclose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@mrclose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrclose)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/63 "2015-07-18T07:47:16Z")

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BTW: The dick head doctor told me today that he was “surprised” that I was still around!

He was joking but he is still a dick head!

Sometimes I really wish that I could be like one of those ghost, the ones on Supernatural.

I’d come back and get even with dick head doctors!😃

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/64 "2015-07-19T02:51:03Z")

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You go with whatever makes you happiest. But in the chance you are actually curious, this nonbeliever has little use for the word atheist. I reject all supernatural, including God/gods. So I have little interest in defining myself in terms of one of many things I disbelieve. Nontheist would be more descriptive, as I consider the concept of deities simply irrelevant to any aspect of how I live my life. If I were to label myself, I would use the term Humanist, to describe something I actually accept, rather than one of many things I reject.

Another thought, if there is an afterlife, isn’t there a pretty good chance nonbelievers will end up there either? Well, unless the only afterlife is run by an insecure and vengeful asshole…

Finally, many nonbelievers feel that acknowledging that this ilife is the only existence we can be certain of gives them more incentive to value every single aspect of it, rather than acting in a particular way to earn admission to the post-party, or to avoid being punished by someone who may not exist.

Just wanted to throw this out there, as it seems you are thinking along these lines. Best of luck with whatever time you have left.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/65 "2015-07-19T03:09:09Z")

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Good luck. That’s all I got. I personally think you will be pleasantly surprised when you pass over. Not based on anything but gut feeling.

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**Author:** ![mrclose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@mrclose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrclose)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/66 "2015-08-04T04:55:18Z")

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I have been remiss in my responses … for good reason.

Some of you may be interested in this?

I went to my 23’rd chemo a few days ago.

I died for approximately 20 minutes!  
Right there, right on the couch!

Medics brought me back with what they said was a lot of effort.

My experience?

Nothing.  
Nada.  
No light at the end of a tunnel.  
No family members to meet me.  
Nothing.  
I didn’t even know that I had ‘died’?

BEFORE you atheists jump in … my experience proves nothing and actually fits in with my own spiritual belief.

When we die, we are DEAD!

We will have a resurrection and only THEN will we know that we had died.

Make sense?

There ain’t no dying and automatically going to heaven or a preachers made up hell.

As the bible says … There is going to be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous.  
Thank God … I was resurrected in This Life by a couple of living angels!

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**Author:** ![mrclose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@mrclose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrclose)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/67 "2015-08-04T05:23:26Z")

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OOPS!

I’m sorry.

That should have read … my 3rd chemo session.

I was too late in catching my mistake to change it in the editing feature.  
(Good Lord … 23? Might as well kill me outright! :o)

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/68 "2015-08-04T06:22:27Z")

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Best wishes for a peaceful passing, when the time comes.

As the old line goes “Stop pushing!” - you’ll get there soon enough.

As to why I’m posting:  
A theory re 'The white light".  
Ever sit/stand up real fast and see spots? I finally remembered to ask my doc (oncologist) about it - he said it was oxygen starvation to the brain.  
Your head is above your blood for a second until the heart boosts pressure.

Given that, the ‘bright white light’ growing larger (as if you are approaching it) could be a function of loss of blood to the brain.  
A very effective mechanism for death.

Don’t feel cheated if you don’t see it. It probably is an optical illusion, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/69 "2015-08-04T10:19:14Z")

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> [@DummyGladHands](#):
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> No, 5 is terrible. You walk around going “I was THIS close.”

Only if you’re too cheap to buy multiple tickets to make sure you’ve got the power ball covered.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/70 "2015-08-04T16:00:03Z")

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In the afterlife, there are no Moderators.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/71 "2015-08-04T18:35:36Z")

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In dealing with death and the idea of non-existance I personally subscribe to the idea of [block time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternalism_%28philosophy_of_time%29) in which the notions of present past and future are not so relevant. From this point of view your life exists always as it is and was, and will no more cease to be than a table ceases to exist because it is only 5 feet long. You had a life and no one can take that away from you.

In my view my life is a painting on the fabric of the universe. Whether I have a long or short canvas on which to work is not the main thing, my job is to just make it a pretty as possible.

While this theory may be complete BS, it makes philosophical sense to me helps me come to terms with the notions of eventual non-existence, and doesn’t lead to any harmful conclusions, (e.g. kill infidels to get into heaven) so I decide to go with it. Look into it, you may find it helpful to you too.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sucks-to-be-dying/724636/72 "2015-08-24T03:16:47Z")

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[Bon voyage, mrclose](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765930). I hope your passing was easy and I wish you to find yourself resurrected as you hoped.

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