# It sure took newsguy Arnold Diaz a long time to finish vice city **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826 "2003-11-07T04:11:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/21 "2003-11-07T21:49:52Z")
Racist? Well it’s finally coming out for XBox. I haven’t played it much, but definitely will when it’s comes out this month…, then go roam the streets around my town and kill some hookers, like all the cool kids do. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/22 "2003-11-07T21:52:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by shelbo \* > \*\*Any suggestions? \*\* A[USB number pad](http://rj55.com/numberpad.htm)? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/23 "2003-11-07T22:14:48Z")
In an odd bit of synchronicity, after reading this thread I surfed over to Roger Ebert’s webpage, and read his review of Gus van Sant’s Columbine-inspired [_Elephant_](http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-elephant07f.html). I thought this passage was particularly interesting. A few days after the massacre, a reporter interviewed him trying to get a soundbite fixing the blame on _The Basketball Diaries_ ( :rolleyes: ): > [@](#): > > The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. “Events like this,” I said, “if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn’t have messed with me. I’ll go out in a blaze of glory.” The interview, of course, never saw air. The news media loves to point fingers, but isn’t so keen when fingers are pointed back at them. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/24 "2003-11-08T00:25:07Z")
There’s been more then one attempt to blame school shootings on the Basketball Diaries. I remember it was mentioned in USA Today after the second(?) shooting b/c it was the kid’s favorite movie. Apparently to become a psycho all you have to do is. Watch Basketball Diaries and Natural Born Killers Play GTA (any version) And Doom. (it cracks me up anytime I see the original Doom in a news broadcast) Too bad all these kids have ADD or Catcher in the Rye would be in the book section. Thank GOD I never watched Natural Born Killers all the way through b/c I’ve done all the others. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/25 "2003-11-08T00:44:53Z")
Wow, I know what’s going on _my_ Christmas list! Thanks, Arnold Diaz! One question, though: So you get to kill Haitians, and you get to kill hookers, but do you get to kill Haitian hookers? ---
**Author:** ![Etherman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Etherman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etherman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/26 "2003-11-08T01:11:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by shelbo \* > \*\*I’m playing on a laptop (my only computer), which does not have a separate number pad on the keyboard (does any laptop?). > > _snip_ > > And running with this damn chainsaw is a real pain in the butt. Any suggestions? \*\* Although playing with just the chainsaw could be interesting… There should be a key in the upper right of the keyboard labeled numpad or something similar that turns a part of the regular keyboard into a number pad. Usually it like the o thru [ , the l thru ’ and the , thru / keys. They should be labeled on the front of the keys themselves. Otherwise, what kind of laptop? There should also be a software keybord thingy under the accessibility tools stuff for people who are disabled and can’t use a keyboard so you might try that (cumbersome yes, but it’s a start). As for the OP, I think the game is hateful to pedestrians, since all my car ever wants to do is drive down the sidewawlks. And **Cervaise** ; killing isn’t the only thing you can do with the hookers, Haitian or not. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/27 "2003-11-08T06:12:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\*Wow, I know what’s going on _my_ Christmas list! Thanks, Arnold Diaz! > > One question, though: So you get to kill Haitians, and you get to kill hookers, but do you get to kill Haitian hookers? \*\* Everyone is fair game. But why is everyone killing hookers? I love them; they’re good for my health. Cops, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/28 "2003-11-08T06:59:54Z")
After you kill them, you can get the money you paid them back. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/29 "2003-11-08T07:57:42Z")
If you want to play GTA (any version I know of) and only kill whites, or Asians, or blacks, or any other race or group, you can. Missions are optional, and you can collect weapons off the dead and/or with cheats. You can even get money without missions, simply by following your natural urges. Heh heh. So the idiot quoted by the OP is, indeed, an idiot. There’s simply no way you can call it racist and maintain any semblance of connection with reality. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/30 "2003-11-08T10:40:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\*Just remember— it is chockfull of killing, and blowing people’s heads off and anti-Haitian (not to mention anti-female, Italian and Cuban) violence. There’s plenty of drug references. Oh, and porn. Let’s not forget the porn missions. > \*\* I like to go to Tower Records on my porn missions. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/31 "2003-11-08T14:03:16Z")
OMG. Every time I hear another evil review of this game, my desire for it goes up 10 fold. ---
**Author:** ![bloodytoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@bloodytoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bloodytoe)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/32 "2003-11-08T17:02:56Z")
The Vice City & GTA 3 collector edition went on sale earlier this week. ---
**Author:** ![Mike.V](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Mike.V](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike.V)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/33 "2003-11-08T19:30:25Z")
I would have just passed this idiot over, but that little “Shame on You” jingle really gives credit to the whole piece. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/34 "2003-11-08T20:07:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \* > \*\*featuring the voicing talents of Dennis Hopper, Ray Liotta, Tom Sizemore, Burt Reynolds, Lee Majors, Philp M. Thomas (of Miami Vice fame), Lawrence Taylor, Gary Busy and Jenna Jameson \*\* What I thought was odd was that (unless I missed something), they really didn’t hype the celebrities at all. I’ve seen plenty of commercials for VC, but it wasn’t until I beat all the missions and saw the credits that I realized who did the voices. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Yookeroo \* > **I do have to admit that after long VC sessions I do have the urge to drive, let’s call it erratically. Also anytime I see someone on a motorcycle, I’m tempted to elbow him off his bike.** Just elbow them off? I get the urge to shoot them off with an assault rifle while the motorcycle is still moving and watch the bike skid to a stop. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/35 "2003-11-08T20:40:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Darkhold \*\*\* > Too bad all these kids have ADD or Catcher in the Rye would be in the book section._\* Wait. So does having ADD preclude you from reading books? Or does having ADD make you a psychotic killer? Seriously. I hate it when people say things like that. It’s just so… ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/36 "2003-11-08T21:12:28Z")
XWalrus, I wasn’t saying either of those things. I was saying when kids don’t read now adays they blame it on something easy like ADD (just like blaming school shootings on games) instead of looking at the whole situation…At least I THINK that’s what I was thinking when I made that comment. No offense intended. ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/37 "2003-11-08T21:16:29Z")
I’m sorry, I was a bit snarky, but it just pisses the hell out of me when people say things like that. I agree with you that people tend to find scapegoats instead of facing the facts, but you could have phrased it better. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/38 "2003-11-08T21:19:10Z")
heh I was trying to make a point about how silly pointing fingers can be. Not about ADD. I’m sorry if I touched a nerve but you could try to grow a little less thin skinned. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/39 "2003-11-08T23:03:23Z")
Hey people, I’m getting a little worried about **World Eater**. He said he was going to try to finish the game this weekend-- and we haven’t heard from him since. Do you think he’s out throwing molotov cocktails at unsuspecting park dwellers? Has anyone seen any news items about an Internet geek shooting the heads off of mall rats? Driving an ice cream truck full of drugs? World Eater, oh **WORLD EATER!!!**. See? No answer. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826/40 "2003-11-09T22:46:31Z")
Yeah, the Haitian gangs in Miami in the 1980’s were mostly choir boys and Eagle Scouts, horribly maligned by these misguided video game developers. They helped little old ladies across the street and picked up litter in neighborhood parks. Little Haiti is such a garden spot now that tourists from all over the world fly to Miami just to wonder at the success and riches that have grown up due to the groundwork these industrious youths made those years ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-sure-took-newsguy-arnold-diaz-a-long-time-to-finish-vice-city/211826.md?page=3)