# It wasn’t a coup **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407 "2021-01-13T05:29:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/301 "2021-01-15T19:07:36Z")
You might want to read this and the link contained therein: > [@It wasn’t a coup](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/296): > > Anyone still making the argument that “If wasn’t a [attempted] coup”? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/302 "2021-01-15T19:07:47Z")
You know what is a good parallel? The Storming of the Bastille. At the time, that must have looked pretty stupid, too. There were only 7 actual prisoners. It wasn’t even the seat of government. But it’s pretty widely understood that that was a flashpoint that really moved the French Revolution from possible to inevitable. Or Lexington and Concord. Those were stupid little battles. Less than a thousand British troops. Less than a 100 Americans on the other side. Or, fuck, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. That was an attempt at regime change that shouldn’t have worked. Violent acts aimed at regime change often work better than they should–because if you create enough chaos and cut off a few key players, opportunities develop. And Trump is fantastic at finding opportunity in the midst of chaos or disorganization–because he isn’t bound by any human decency or restraint. The insurrectionists were not complete idiots to think this might be the thing that changed the course of history. It was possible that they could have “tried” and killed Pence and Pelosi and a few others, like they wanted to do with Whitmer. Smaller things than that have changed the world. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/303 "2021-01-15T19:12:25Z")
that one isn’t even trying; we used to attract a better class of trolls here… ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/304 "2021-01-15T19:13:52Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Oh, look! Another idiot MAGAt. Just put the sock on ignore. Normal (real) people don’t come in after two minutes or less of read time and stir the pot on their very first post. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/305 "2021-01-15T19:14:44Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Anyone still making the argument that “If wasn’t a [attempted] coup”? What, are you going to try and hold that man accountable for his thoughts, words and actions? Just like a lib. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/306 "2021-01-15T19:16:06Z")
> [@Behind\_The\_Curtain](#): > > Not a coup for sure, though the media might paint it that way. Regardless, the security was a joke. Than must be fixed ASAP This isn’t Facebook-Posting without bothering to read what others have said just makes you look like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/307 "2021-01-15T19:21:28Z")
saying idiotic things isn’t helping him either ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/308 "2021-01-15T20:54:32Z")
> “Chansley has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascent to another reality,” the document says. It quotes him saying in a YouTube video as saying, “I am able to perceive multiple different frequencies of light beyond my five senses and it allows me to see into these other higher dimensions.” So he’s got that goin’ for him. Which is nice … [h/t to Bill Murray, from _Caddyshack_] ['tis good to be a _white_ alien in the CFSG’s America] [Source](https://news.yahoo.com/strong-evidence-shows-rioters-intended-170114650.html) [CFSG = Cheeto-Faced Shit-Gibbon] ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/309 "2021-01-15T21:08:12Z")
> This is the first time Behind\_The\_Curtain has posted — let’s welcome them to our community! Aww, he’s gone, and I missed my chance. I haz sad. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/310 "2021-01-15T21:26:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Ah, the “My client is fucking stupid” defense. It’s the “Party of Personal Responsibility” passing the buck yet again. Funny how that always happens. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/311 "2021-01-16T01:12:28Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > The Coup Klutz Clan […] It’s “Koup Klutz Klan”. These hateful, evil, knuckle-dragging motherfuckers in no way, shape, or form deserve the courtesy C’s ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/312 "2021-01-16T01:14:18Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > It’s “Koup Klutz Klan”. I think the “Qoup Qlutz Qlan” spelling, although a bit more awkward-looking, adds a nice additional layer of mockery. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/313 "2021-01-16T01:14:19Z")
Well it wasn’t really the bad thing portrayed on the lamestream media - just some zany hijinks that got a bit out of hand /s ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/314 "2021-01-16T01:17:04Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I think the “Qoup Qlutz Qlan” spelling, although a bit more awkward-looking, adds a nice additional layer of mockery. Yeah. That’s pretty good. It also gets to the whole Q-Moron thing. The important thing is to use the same letter at the start of each word. > [@velomont](#): > > Well it wasn’t really the bad thing portrayed on the lamestream media - just some zany hijinks that got a bit out of hand /s _“You kids stop those zany hijinks right this minute! Somone could get an eye poked out or a bullet in the neck or a fire extinguisher to the head or something.”_ ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/315 "2021-01-16T01:25:18Z")
Qoup Cucks Klan. We could just call them QCKs (quick) for short. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/316 "2021-01-16T01:41:06Z")
The Cs have their own sordid history, > **[Citizens' Councils](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_Councils)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > The Citizens' Councils (commonly referred to as the White Citizens' Councils) were an associated network of white supremacist, segregationist organizations in the United States, concentrated in the South and created as part of a white backlash against the US Supreme Court's landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling. The first was formed on July 11, 1954. The name was changed to the Citizens' Councils of America in 1956. With about 60,000 membe... > **[Council of Conservative Citizens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Conservative_Citizens)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > The Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC or CCC) is an American white supremacist organization. Founded in 1985, it advocates white nationalism, and supports some paleoconservative causes. In the organization's statement of principles, it states that they "oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind". > Headquartered in Potosi, Missouri, as of 2015, the group's president is Earl Holt; Jared Taylor is the group's spokesman, and Paul Fromm i... ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/317 "2021-01-16T10:11:01Z")
> **[Washington Post: Capitol Police intelligence report warned of violence...](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/capitol-police-intelligence-report-congress-attack/index.html)** > > An internal Capitol Police intelligence report produced three days before rioters breached the US Capitol cautioned that violent supporters of President Donald Trump could zero in on "Congress itself," the Washington Post reported Friday, citing... How much more of this is necessary before the “it wasn’t a coup” people abandon the postage-stamp-sized ground of rationalization on which they currently teeter? ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/318 "2021-01-16T13:53:22Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > How much more of this is necessary before the “it wasn’t a coup” people abandon the postage-stamp-sized ground of rationalization on which they currently teeter? Add this: he hasn’t stopped tryng to find a way…this was YESTERDAY: [https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-calls-pillow-salesman-discuss-003757011.html](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-calls-pillow-salesman-discuss-003757011.html) Suppose you build a dam and water builds behind it. One day it breaks and massive destruction… Or snowfall after snowfall builds in layers on the mountain and one day there’s a rumble, here comes the avalanche. “Stored energy” is the notion in physics, I think. Psychologically that’s where Trump is. He built up so much arrogance over the years and had his way sooo many times. But now he’s been told NO dozens of times. He keeps doubling down. Spiteful to the point of not conceding, not inviting Biden to dinner, not transitioning…and STILL trying to change the outcome. Big donors have shied away, banks are distancing themselves, some of the fellow Republicans he was able to dominate are falling out of line…and he’s STILL trying to change the result. Pew says 68% don’t want him to remain a major political figure. [Source](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/01/15/biden-begins-presidency-with-positive-ratings-trump-departs-with-lowest-ever-job-mark/) Now that baby’s pacifiers, aka Twitter and Facebook etc, have been taken away he may implode outside the public view. But if he wants to convince me that it wasn’t an attempted coup, _he’ll first have to stop attempting it._ WRT the KKK etc. sorry if I missed these upthread but I’m hearing a couple others I’ve heard: Y’all-qaeda The Taliban-jo ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/319 "2021-01-16T14:14:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Ah, the “My client is fucking stupid” defense. Trump Derangement Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/320 "2021-01-16T14:16:38Z")
Yes, but I think that one takes some direct heat off of the defendant. Personal responsibility beig of such importance to those guys, after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407.md?page=17)