# It wasn’t a coup

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407 "2021-01-13T05:29:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/802 "2021-02-12T22:05:28Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Right, the Republicans built a doomsday machine. Trump just came along and started pushing all the buttons on it.

Funny, in an “it’s the end of the world” kind of way.

> [@BigT](#):
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> A lot of his deal is that he thinks Southerners and rednecks are not as bad as many people think.

I get that, and I know a lot of Southerners and rednecks. I’m also getting my share of feed from some of them.

> [@BigT](#):
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> His “folksy charm” is his attempt to break through the automatic reactions that people have to the “liberal elite,” to get past the surface.

Oh I get that. He wants to speak to the people he’s trying to reach in a voice they will hear.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And the rest will say “Keep your government hands off my $1400 cheque that Trump gave us”

“It was Trump’s idea!”

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/803 "2021-02-13T00:08:42Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> “It was Trump’s idea!”

As they forget his idea was originally for $2,000.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/804 "2021-02-13T12:31:58Z")

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Well, it is $1,400 + the original $600, which is $2,000. But I hesitate to give them credit for understanding math.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/805 "2021-02-13T18:01:00Z")

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Tell them that if the new check isn’t signed by Trump, it is fake, and they should tear it up.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/806 "2021-02-13T18:41:39Z")

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Unfortunately, most will be coming by direct deposit, I assume.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/807 "2021-12-09T16:43:33Z")

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Just want to wrap up this thread… with the release of Mark Meadow’s PowerPoint presentation detailing the reasons and action plans for the coup, I don’t want the OP, @Sitnam, to remain confused on this point:

> <https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1468966816831586306?t=oRMfe1NBw6dQpQG_rNWmMg&s=19>

(Double click rules - link takes to a tweet which has the link to Meadows’ plan.)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/808 "2021-12-09T16:58:28Z")

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No real punishment for any of this by anyone. The republicans have doubled down on The Big Lie and the democrats are fucking useless. The next coup attempt will work.

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**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/809 "2021-12-09T17:17:42Z")

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Wait. I’m confused. Who controls Dominion and ES&S? The powerpoint seems to indicate Venezuela and President Chavez. Later, it says that China and the CCP have done the nefarious deeds.

Which is it?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/810 "2021-12-09T17:20:07Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> Which is it?

The only thing they know for sure is that the GOP isn’t behind it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/811 "2021-12-09T17:23:15Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> Which is it?

Probably the Mole-men are overseeing it all.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/812 "2021-12-09T17:27:53Z")

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I’m going with reverse vampires and saucer people.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ut3I6gFmlls/hqdefault.jpg "We're Through The Looking Glass Here, People (The Simpsons)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut3I6gFmlls)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/813 "2021-12-09T17:34:01Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> reverse vampires

Now I’m intrigued. How would this even work? They feed by spitting on people?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/814 "2021-12-09T17:35:51Z")

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I think they were vampires that walked around during the day rather than at night, but I haven’t seen that episode in a while.

Back to the OP, it was definitely a coup attempt.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/815 "2021-12-09T18:05:59Z")

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I just . . . the whole thing is moronic.

Like almost everything to come out of the Republican party in recent memory, I object first not because of policy or philosophy, but because it is incoherent at best.

The fact that this represents the kind of “work” and “thinking” that millions find valuable and don’t recognize for the illogical and disconnected babbling it is is one of the most disheartening things I’ve come to realize in the Trump/post-Trump era.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/816 "2021-12-09T18:13:47Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> The fact that this represents the kind of “work” and “thinking” that millions find valuable and don’t recognize for the illogical and disconnected babbling it is is one of the most disheartening things I’ve come to realize in the Trump/post-Trump era.

Kinda why I no longer “hold out hope” sorta thing.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/817 "2021-12-09T18:31:56Z")

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I can see where it comes from, though.

They believe that everything against Trump was simply a fabrication in the Steele report, and that Democrats completely believe everything in it.

Therefore, they can just make shit up out of whole cloth, and use it as their basis of belief that the election was stolen.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/818 "2021-12-09T18:59:18Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Therefore, they can just make shit up out of whole cloth, and use it as their basis of belief that the election was stolen.

But even that would be incoherent: “If you all are going to believe a lie [Steele report], then two can play at that game; we’re going to craft our own lies and believe them just as hard as you believe your lies, so there!”

I mean, what even is that?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/819 "2021-12-09T21:15:14Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Now I’m intrigued. How would this even work? They feed by spitting on people?

Maybe they pump blood _into_ people.

Believe it or not, there’s an _Urban Dictionary_ entry on this. **RitterSport** has it right.

> **[Urban Dictionary: Reverse Vampire](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reverse%20Vampire)**
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> A vampire who craves the sun and hates the night. Loves to get a tan. Refered to in both The Simpsons and Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/820 "2021-12-09T21:20:37Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> > [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > Therefore, they can just make shit up out of whole cloth, and use it as their basis of belief that the election was stolen.
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> But even that would be incoherent: “If you all are going to believe a lie [Steele report], then two can play at that game; we’re going to craft our own lies and believe them just as hard as you believe your lies, so there!”
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> I mean, what even is that?

[It’s a metaphor. But it actually happened.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECSG3RYWY30)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407/821 "2021-12-09T21:35:50Z")

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Or “Vanilla ISIS”.

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