# It would appear that the DNC likes being in the minority **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 1, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427 "2017-11-01T20:01:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/21 "2017-11-01T21:48:37Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Because the DNC, or at least one department at the DNC, is apparently racist and sexist in their hiring practices. I don’t know, maybe you’re cool with that though? If I were, I’d be a republican. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/22 "2017-11-01T21:48:51Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Perhaps it’s because left-leaning media is an actual thing? Oh, FFS. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/23 "2017-11-01T21:49:21Z")
If she exists and this is real, she should be fired; in fact I have every confidence that the organization will actually do so for making them look bad (again, if she’s is a real person and this isn’t doctored.) And while I generally hate whataboutism, I think it’s fair in this case to note that we’re talking about some minor functionary who no one’s ever heard of, who will be smacked down, vs. an organization that’s about to make _Roy Moore_ a Senator, a position with actual power. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/24 "2017-11-01T21:50:01Z")
Although her LinkedIn profile is down currently, Google cached her profile [pic](https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/4/000/159/236/33c95b7.jpg). She looks like a fairly young person. Again, assuming this is true, some young, low-level person did something stupid and will probably lose her job over it. Post it in the SLIOTD thread. You’ll be welcomed as a hero over there. I don’t contribute to the DNC, so this doesn’t affect me. But I generally don’t base my support of an organization on the expectation that they ensure there are no idiots in low level roles. If they slap her wrist and let her keep her job, meh. Whatever. I don’t have a zero-tolerance policy toward garden-variety idiocy. If this was someone with real authority and influence, I’d probably be more worked up about it. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/25 "2017-11-01T21:52:03Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, FFS. :rolleyes: It’s just my personal theory. I’d welcome hearing yours on why it’s “Not even picked up by The Hill or Politico.” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/26 "2017-11-01T21:54:54Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > FOX has a story about it with a DNC spokesman’s response: > > If Madeleine Leader or the email were a hoax, you’d think he’d have just said so, rather than saying it was “not authorized”. > > ETA: [DNC: White men shouldn't apply for tech jobs | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/01/dnc-white-men-shouldnt-apply-for-tech-jobs.html) OK, I didn’t see that. So the official word from the organization is that this was a random dumbass who wasn’t acting in accordance with policy or with the authorization of senior leadership. That happens. Random dumbasses exist and sometimes get jobs in political organizations. When they act like random dumbasses they get disciplined or fired. What Democrats tend not to do, however, is elect them to powerful positions. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/27 "2017-11-01T21:56:06Z")
Maybe because it’s breaking news? ETA: to HD’s rhetorical question above. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/28 "2017-11-01T22:01:01Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It’s just my personal theory. I’d welcome hearing yours on why it’s “Not even picked up by The Hill or Politico.” It’s hardly major news. We had special counsel indictments and a terrorist attack this week. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/29 "2017-11-01T22:01:45Z")
Apparently, the DNC sometimes hires idiots. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/30 "2017-11-01T22:03:22Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Maybe because it’s breaking news? > > ETA: to HD’s rhetorical question above. This is probably correct. It looks like it just hit the Hill a few minutes ago: [http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/358325-dnc-under-fire-over-job-ad](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/358325-dnc-under-fire-over-job-ad) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/31 "2017-11-01T22:07:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Apparently, the DNC sometimes hires idiots. The question remains if they fire them or not. Several posters have expressed certitude that Leader’s time at the DNC is drawing to a close. I’m not as certain, but would certainly welcome her firing and the message it would send to other DNC employees about the importance of avoiding race- or gender-based discrimination in hiring. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/32 "2017-11-01T22:07:58Z")
Thats a dumb opinion she made. But I don’t agree with the trend of firing and ostracizing people over controversy (at least I’d like to think I don’t). I didn’t think Don Imus deserved all the blowback he got for saying ‘nappy headed hoes’ either. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/33 "2017-11-01T22:11:09Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Thats a dumb opinion she made. But I don’t agree with the trend of firing and ostracizing people over controversy (at least I’d like to think I don’t). If the DNC fires her, it won’t really be on any principle other than _political organizations should fire anyone who massively embarrasses and harms them politically_. That’s not really any trend other than people who greatly harm the organizations they work for typically get fired. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/34 "2017-11-01T22:52:23Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It’s just my personal theory. I’d welcome hearing yours on why it’s “Not even picked up by The Hill or Politico.” Probably because they were looking to verify that the story was actually true. The Hill doesn’t do long form writing, they specialize in posting small stories about everything in US politics. I found it odd that I couldn’t quickly verify the name of a DNC staff member that would have responsibility for staff hiring. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/35 "2017-11-01T22:57:38Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Probably because they were looking to verify that the story was actually true. The Hill doesn’t do long form writing, they specialize in posting small stories about everything in US politics. I found it odd that I couldn’t quickly verify the name of a DNC staff member that would have responsibility for staff hiring. I don’t know what a Data Services Manager is, but I doubt she has hiring authority for all – or any – of the roles in that email. She’s probably not the hiring manager for the CSO, for example. She said she was a “bit more than just the messenger”. Sounds like she might have input on some of the roles. Maybe she’s the hiring manager for some of them ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/36 "2017-11-02T01:23:21Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If the DNC fires her, it won’t really be on any principle other than _political organizations should fire anyone who massively embarrasses and harms them politically_. That’s not really any trend other than people who greatly harm the organizations they work for typically get fired. Are political organizations such as the DNC covered by hiring discrimination laws? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/37 "2017-11-02T03:35:54Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Are political organizations such as the DNC covered by hiring discrimination laws? Yes, AFAIK. > **[Employment discrimination law in the United States | Exceptions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_in_the_United_States#Exceptions)** > > Employers are generally allowed to consider characteristics that would otherwise be discriminatory if they are bona fide occupational qualifications (BFOQ). The most common BFOQ is sex, and the second most common BFOQ is age. Bona Fide Occupational Qualifications cannot be used for discrimination on the basis of race. > The only exception to this rule is demonstrated in a single case, Wittmer v. Peters, where the court rules that law enforcement surveillance can match races when necessary. For in... ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/38 "2017-11-02T04:09:38Z")
Wow, this is the daily talking point from Moscow? They’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Not gonna distract anyone from the indictments with this quality of material, guys. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/39 "2017-11-02T04:28:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I see what you mean. But I really must ask a question here. You seem to feel that liberals should all abandon the Democratic party because an obscure _ **data services manager** _ made a clumsy misguided attempt to promote diversity. > > How do you reconcile that view with the position put forward by so many of your Republican compatriots – including possibly even yourself (I don’t remember) – to elect as your goddam freaking President of the United States a raving racist bigot and pathological narcissist of staggering incompetence, and **justify it by saying that it’s OK because he’s a Republican and you support many of his policies**? Yeah, I’m not expecting an answer to this either. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/40 "2017-11-02T04:38:20Z")
> [@sweepkick](#): > > Yeah, I’m not expecting an answer to this either. I considered it off-topic for this thread, and didn’t want to see it get derailed, so I ignored it. If you think it’s important to start yet another ‘how can anyone support Trump / Republicans?’ thread, be my guest and I’ll pop in and try to explain my motives / reasoning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427.md?page=3)