# It would appear that the DNC likes being in the minority **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 1, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427 "2017-11-01T20:01:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/41 "2017-11-02T04:39:41Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Wow, this is the daily talking point from Moscow? They’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Not gonna distract anyone from the indictments with this quality of material, guys. Sad. There are threads to discuss those things. If you want to discuss them rather than this, go post there, but please don’t threadshit here. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/42 "2017-11-02T04:42:26Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I considered it off-topic for this thread, and didn’t want to see it get derailed, so I ignored it. If you think it’s important to start yet another **‘how can anyone support Trump / Republicans?’ thread** , be my guest and I’ll pop in and try to explain my motives / reasoning. Nice dodge. Since that’s the question you asked in the OP, I don’t see how it’s off-topic. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/43 "2017-11-02T05:09:29Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m curious if the Democrats among us have anything to say about their affiliation with a racist and bigoted organization? You have poisoned the well here. Why does this person who you’ve never heard of represent the Democratic party or the DNC? It’s a common tactic used by your side, to treat individuals on the other side as representatives of the whole group. You should cut it out, because it’s divisive and destructive. If your arguments were sound, you wouldn’t need to pretend that a middle manager of an I.T. sub-department who said something ridiculously bigoted actually represents Democrats in general, and you wouldn’t pretend that the DNC hasn’t already publicly denounced her statements. Here’s a question for you. If it turns out that this person ends up being fired for her statements, will you take back what you said above, and admit that it’s not evidence that the DNC is racist or bigoted? > [@](#): > > Will you be withholding donations to the DNC because of this? No. > [@](#): > > Is this mildly concerning? Yes, but not in the way you’re implying. > [@](#): > > Or is everything hunkey-dorey here from your perspective? No. We’re exhausted. Work has a funny way of doing that to people. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/44 "2017-11-02T05:34:10Z")
I think she should be reprimanded, and punished, up to and including termination. First, though, I’d try to figure out the motivation for such a request. Is this an isolated incident and a bad choice of words? Is it indicative of a particular bias of hers? A poor choice of words can be easily rectified, and not grounds for termination. We all mispeak sometimes. And things sometimes sound better in our heads than when we attempt to articulate them. The DNC has taken the right first step, saying that her words are not representative of the organization. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/45 "2017-11-02T10:32:30Z")
Having someone in the DNC who is an idiot is about as rare as having someone in the RNC who isn’t. I’ll gladly accept the fallout of having someone in my party drummed out of the national committee if I get to see the leader of your party led out of the White House in handcuffs. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/46 "2017-11-02T10:40:53Z")
It does seem a stupid piece of political incompetence. I don’t know about usual hiring practices in the US, but over here it’s quite common to see adverts offering warm words about diversity and deliberately setting out to encourage the under-represented (however defined) to apply, and to make sure adverts appear in a range of outlets to focus on the under-represented groups, or in other words, to present it positively rather than negatively, which you’d have thought a basic skill in someone working for a political organisation. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/47 "2017-11-02T10:54:54Z")
What do I think? Well, God knows I’m not a religious man, but what I think is of a lesson I remember from Sunday School back in the early eighties, turns out to be Matthew 7:3-5. > [@Jesus](#): > > Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. [Please understand that while I share the sentiment, I don’t countenance Jesus’s namecalling, certainly not outside of the Pit; I left it in there not to endorse it but so as not to butcher the quote] ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/48 "2017-11-02T12:11:50Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m finding that parody and caricatures of Democrats are becoming increasingly difficult, at least for me personally. That’s okay. The important thing is to keep practicing daily, and with time your skills are bound to improve. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/49 "2017-11-02T12:21:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Sure, fire her. But who is this person again, and why should I particularly care about her? When a no name Dem does something bad it means all Dems are bad. When the GOP president of the United States praises Nazis it means you’re a racist for noticing. Please do try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/50 "2017-11-02T12:22:00Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I considered it off-topic for this thread, and didn’t want to see it get derailed, so I ignored it. If you think it’s important to start yet another ‘how can anyone support Trump / Republicans?’ thread, be my guest and I’ll pop in and try to explain my motives / reasoning. As several have pointed out, since this is exactly the question you ask in the OP, considering it off-topic is pretty funny, in a sad kind of way. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/51 "2017-11-02T12:38:10Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > [Please understand that while I share the sentiment, I don’t countenance Jesus’s namecalling, certainly not outside of the Pit; I left it in there not to endorse it but so as not to butcher the quote] Gotta admit. Changing text in quote tags is against the rules. Changing JESUS’ quote has got to be some sort of special. And I don’t yet have the lightning bolt keyboard upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/52 "2017-11-02T13:15:59Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I want to know why Robert Mueller isn’t investigating this. Do you think he has time what with all the investigating he has to do of Hillary? Huh??? ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/53 "2017-11-02T13:34:11Z")
According to[THIS](http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exclusive-dnc-official-discriminates-against-elliott-hamilton)article, their were some jobs opening up at DNC headquarters and the recruiter specifically asked that the job posting NOT be sent to straight, white, cisgender men because they “are the majority”. Well I’m a straight, white, cisgender male so I couldn’t qualify. And so are many others on this site. Can you support a party where you are told “Do not apply”? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/54 "2017-11-02T13:37:35Z")
Enormous concern already in [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840554) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/55 "2017-11-02T13:39:14Z")
Yeah, that sure is a shame. I assume you similarly blame other entire organizations for the actions of one of its members? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/56 "2017-11-02T13:51:37Z")
I concur that the woman should be terminated. Fortunately— and much more importantly— I’ve just gotten word that cisgender straight white males are _not_, as was erroneously reported, in danger of being underrepresented, in the DNC or pretty much anywhere else. I apologize to anyone who may have expected knee-jerk, partisan wagon-circling and excuse-making as a response, and is perplexed and even a bit disappointed by its absence, based on a misguided belief that everybody does it in equal measure. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/57 "2017-11-02T13:52:01Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > What do I think? Well, God knows I’m not a religious man, but what I think is of a lesson I remember from Sunday School back in the early eighties, turns out to be Matthew 7:3-5. > > [Please understand that while I share the sentiment, I don’t countenance Jesus’s namecalling, certainly not outside of the Pit; I left it in there not to endorse it but so as not to butcher the quote] This seems odd. I’ve seen like maybe dozens of posts from you over the years arguing strenuously against bringing up hypocrisy in an argument, saying it’s just an ad hominem that does nothing to address the argument etc. etc. Are you renouncing all that now? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/58 "2017-11-02T13:56:56Z")
I’ve long felt that the phrase “\*just \*asking questions” is unfair, as it fails to recognize the effort required, including the need to be quick on one’s feet. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/59 "2017-11-02T14:06:58Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > This is pretty damn egregious in my eyes, but I don’t know if I’m an outlier here. I’d like to think not, but I guess we’ll see. So aside from some questioning the legitimacy of this (admittedly poorly sourced, at least at first) story, the unanimous consensus here is that you’re not an outlier; nobody here on the left is defending this woman. Are you disappointed in our reasonable and consistent response? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427/60 "2017-11-02T14:19:06Z")
I’m going to combine this with the one in Elections. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-would-appear-that-the-dnc-likes-being-in-the-minority/800427.md?page=4)