# Italian macaroni. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 31, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786 "2004-07-31T23:48:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/21 "2004-08-02T15:15:05Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > For other Italians: These rules apply to even the way we pronounce different dishes and cheeses. Muzzarell versus mozzarella. Rigut versus Riccota. Capagol versus capicolla. Proszut verus proscicutto. I never heard any of those abominations either until working at the Italian restaurant in '93. Someone asked for “pasta fazool” and I thought he had a speech impediment or possibly had burned his tongue on his “expresso.” ---
**Author:** ![vix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e4f/32.png) [@vix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vix)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/22 "2004-08-02T19:53:29Z")
Another vote for macaroni with sauce, though often my parents would just say “We’re having ziti” or whatever. All my great-grandparents were born in Italy, as was my maternal grandfather. My father grew up speaking Italian at home (in Providence, RI - big Italian enclave), and we’re in touch with our relatives (both sides) in Italy. Those “Italo-Americanized” pronounciations of Italian foods drive me crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/23 "2004-08-02T22:31:49Z")
> [@sj2](#): > > Well, my pop’s a Silician and in my NY house, it is pasta. Never macaroni. That’s what comes the the box with a cheese sauce packet. Heh, I always heard the same thing, only my family is from Tuscany (Lucca) and settled in San Francisco. I never heard the term “gravy” referring to sauce until I saw The Sopranos. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/24 "2004-08-02T23:31:08Z")
Ok all you pretentious, nose-in-the-air, abominated Italians. This thread is dedicated at Italian-Americans. Just remember who gave you the tomato, eh? Anyway, you _will_ assimilate. Resistance is futile. If not, well, hike your butts on back that nirvana where they won’t add some color to your precious culture. The Sopranos, indeed. :rolleyes: Scritch scritch scritch. (The sound of my fingers flipping out from under my chin at you) The “evil eye” comes next, if you keep it up. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lars\_Aruns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Lars\_Aruns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lars_Aruns)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/25 "2004-08-03T00:24:52Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > Ok all you pretentious, nose-in-the-air, abominated Italians. This thread is dedicated at Italian-Americans. Just remember who gave you the tomato, eh? You mean Cristoforo Colombo? He’s from Genoa, you know. Oh, you mean the _land_. If you put it like this, 'tis certainly not you that gave tomato to the world. [QUOTE=mangeorge] Anyway, you _will_ assimilate. Resistance is futile. /QUOTE] So much for the respect for another’s culture. What’s next, imposing English? > [@mangeorge](#): > > If not, well, hike your butts on back that nirvana where they won’t add some color to your precious culture. What is it that upsets you so much in the discussions of people talking about such an important aspect of their culture? > [@mangeorge](#): > > The Sopranos, indeed. :rolleyes: Nobody mentioned them. Anyway, isn’t that stereotyping? > [@mangeorge](#): > > Scritch scritch scritch. (The sound of my fingers flipping out from under my chin at you) The “evil eye” comes next, if you keep it up. You ask a question, you get answers. You originally intended to aim this to Italo-Americans, and Italo-Americans (apart from me) are giving you answers. If your post was intended as a joke, I’m afraid it was not funny. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lars\_Aruns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Lars\_Aruns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lars_Aruns)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/26 "2004-08-03T00:27:34Z")
Apologies, there was a small error in the markup of my last post. Allow me to correct it here: > [@mangeorge](#): > > Anyway, you _will_ assimilate. Resistance is futile. So much for the respect for another’s culture. What’s next, imposing English? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786/27 "2004-08-03T00:47:03Z")
\*\*Demo['i], in post #23 mentioned the Sopranos. I’ve never had the pleasure of watching the show. CC brought the tomato, in the hire of the Spanish queen, to Europe from the nice folks in the americas. I think. Someone else, not me, called the influence of Italian-Americans on the culture (language, actually) of old Italy an abomination. An opinion, sure, but kinda snooty. What’s that word, the one that means language grows with exposure to other languages? I appreciate the answers. I don’t really appreciate those who ridicule an important, and dear to me, part of my culture. But that’s ok. I can handle it. And yes, my post was, in part, a joke. Now go to your room. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-macaroni/257786.md?page=1)