# Italian rental properties: no kitchen?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 4, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-rental-properties-no-kitchen/531285 "2010-03-04T15:44:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-rental-properties-no-kitchen/531285/21 "2010-03-05T12:17:09Z")

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> [@Hairy\_Bob](#):
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> Certainly in the UK, a kitchen is expected to come with some cupboards and a sink. If you’re lucky it might have a built in cooker but anything with a plug tends to be supplied by the tenant.

It’s the same in France.  
Unless you’re renting a “meublé” (“furnished (house/flat)”), the only thing you’ll have in the kitchen is a sink on top of a cupboard, maybe a combo stovetop/oven if you’re lucky. Some places will have more cupboards in the kitchen.

We’re looking at another place to rent in autumn, and I do not even look at the meublé ads, I wouldn’t want to use someone else’s appliances/furnitures. If I fuck something up, or if I want to sell or buy something new/other, I’m free to do as I please.

Also, if you rent a meublé, the landlord only have to warn you 3 months before the end of the lease if he wants you out, when it’s 6 months if the house/flat is rented “naked”. Meublés leases are for a year, otherwise it’s 3 years. The rents are also higher.

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> [@Lazz](#):
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> Also, if you rent a meublé, the landlord only have to warn you 3 months before the end of the lease if he wants you out, when it’s 6 months if the house/flat is rented “naked”. Meublés leases are for a year, otherwise it’s 3 years. The rents are also higher.

This is why you have an increase in furnished appartments here in the netherlands; people can’t sell their houses because of the economic situation and want some income without giving tennants the right to stay as long as they want. Normally tennants can’t be thrown out without reason and can stay as long as they want, when you rent out furnished places you can decide (within reason, so no: get out tomorrow) when the lease ends; and then you can try to sell the house again.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italian-rental-properties-no-kitchen/531285/23 "2010-03-05T13:25:44Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> I believe this is not unusual in Germany either. There’s some phrase that I forget which they use in rental listings, which indicates whether kitchen fittings are included.

When you see the word Einbauküche, or simply EBK, in a German rental listing then there’s kitchen included. Obviously normally also when the rental property is offered full or partly with furniture (vollmöbliert/teilmöbliert). When there’s no mention of these, it’s usually to be expected that the kitchen is an empty room with plumbing and power, and you’ll bring your own kitchen (often from IKEA) with you. These customs are different between European countries, so for example in Finland a rental property would include kitchen with all facilities by default. In Italy, you’ll need to ask.

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