# It's 2050: Who is the group struggling for recognition now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 18, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189 "2016-08-18T17:33:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/21 "2016-08-18T23:23:27Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > It really is a shame that Atheists are oppressed and don’t even have all the rights that even Transgenders now have. You’re going to need to expound on the meaning of your reply. I’m certainly not saying that atheists are as discriminated against TODAY as many other groups. I’m hoping that by 2050 everyone else in front of us is taken care of and it could be our turn. Or someone’s. Cause I’ll be dead by then. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/22 "2016-08-18T23:42:32Z")
Extraterrestrials, especially the ones that arrive without proper immigration paperwork ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/23 "2016-08-18T23:44:32Z")
The mentally ill. Right now they are ignored and ridiculed, blamed for their behavior, left to roam the streets and fend for themselves, and they have to deal with a level of police violence that would make a black person gasp in horror. half of all police killings are of mentally ill people. I know several mentally ill people (and am one myself) who has been a victim of police violence. On top of that the only time society mentions them is when one of them becomes violent. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/24 "2016-08-18T23:48:48Z")
I’m going to guess that the big civil rights struggle in 2050 is going to be for black folks. Yeah, yeah, that’s nothing new… but if we haven’t managed to solve the problem in the 150 years since we literally went to war over it, what makes anyone think we’ll manage it in the next 34? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/25 "2016-08-18T23:52:51Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > It really is a shame that Atheists are oppressed and don’t even have all the rights that even Transgenders now have. Can you elaborate? As far as I can tell, the only right atheists do not have is that they are at a disadvantage when running for political office. Politicians have to pretend to believe in a deity to appeal to 51% of voters and an atheist is at a disadvantage. However other than that, I really can’t think of any discrimination they/we face. Even that seems like a minor barrier. Considering that IQ and religion are negatively correlated, and becoming a national politician would require a high IQ (some people who hate politicians may disagree, but it is true. Most politicians have graduate degrees and have been successful in fields like law or business. You can’t do that and be dumb) you’d expect a fairly reasonable minority of politicians to be atheists. But I do not know if any are. I thought one was from the northeast (some guy with a PhD) but who knows if he is even in congress. I’m sure there are a lot of closeted atheists in politics. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/26 "2016-08-19T00:02:16Z")
Actually, looking into it there are 8 state statutes limiting atheists in their rights to hold political office, serve as witnesses in court. > **[Nonreligious Questions](https://www.patheos.com/nonreligious-questions/)** > > Whether you’ve been turned off by religion in the past or have a question about one of the world’s religions, check out what Patheos has to offer. The fact that 6 of the 8 states are southern is not surprising. How is that constitutional under federal law? A religious test should be disqualified. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/27 "2016-08-19T01:17:28Z")
[Orks.](http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Ork_Underground) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/28 "2016-08-19T01:19:59Z")
> [@QuarkChild](#): > > Ex-cons? I’ve never understood why they can’t vote. They can vote in 39 states. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > How is that constitutional under federal law? It’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/29 "2016-08-19T01:24:02Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > It really is a shame that Atheists are oppressed and don’t even have all the rights that even Transgenders now have. Most countries don’t give a shit already and haven’t for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/30 "2016-08-19T02:28:23Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Most countries don’t give a shit already and haven’t for a long time. There are thirteen countries where atheism is still punishable by death. The state I live in, Tennessee, still has a law against atheists holding public office. You can handwave and pretend “most countries” don’t give a shit but when you’re living in one that does, you gain a little perspective. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/31 "2016-08-19T05:20:55Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The mentally ill. Right now they are ignored and ridiculed, blamed for their behavior, left to roam the streets and fend for themselves, and they have to deal with a level of police violence that would make a black person gasp in horror. half of all police killings are of mentally ill people. I know several mentally ill people (and am one myself) who has been a victim of police violence. > > On top of that the only time society mentions them is when one of them becomes violent. Well, yeah, but we’ve been [struggling for recognition already for awhile](http://home.earthlink.net/~allan.hunter/psych_inmates_libfront/vol_4/the_movement.html). We may still be doing so in 2050 but from the way the OP was worded I assumed it meant outgroups who have not risen up and attempted to claim their rights as of yet. Hmm, perhaps we haven’t had much impact yet sure enough. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/32 "2016-08-19T05:33:00Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Well, yeah, but we’ve been [struggling for recognition already for awhile](http://home.earthlink.net/~allan.hunter/psych_inmates_libfront/vol_4/the_movement.html). We may still be doing so in 2050 but from the way the OP was worded I assumed it meant outgroups who have not risen up and attempted to claim their rights as of yet. Hmm, perhaps we haven’t had much impact yet sure enough. Yes, but from the perspective of 99% of the population, that struggle has yet to begin. ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/33 "2016-08-19T12:42:16Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Extraterrestrials, especially the ones that arrive without proper immigration paperwork HEY! I was going to say that! :smack: anyway Cats and members of congress and yes they arent going to get an uppercase C from me!:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/34 "2016-08-19T13:04:10Z")
Not robots. People who _fuck_ robots. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/35 "2016-08-19T13:17:05Z")
Little people are still at the back of the line. The disabled also still face extreme challenges and prejudice every day. Artificial beings or genetically engineered beings are a good one too. Atheists? Please. While atheists may be dimly regarded by most people and it would be hard to be elected President as an atheist, we don’t face day to day discrimination. The worst thing that’s ever been said to me was “I’ll pray for you.” I’m horrified, truly. Now where there are actual laws that are enforced, I agree those need to go, but I have yet to lose a friend or a relative when they find out, or be denied service anywhere, or been shot at by police. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/36 "2016-08-19T14:28:50Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > After a court decision one month before the 2000 election affirming same, neither can U.S. citizens who are residents of U.S. territories or possessions, like Puerto Rico, the USVI, Guam, etc. (Chef guy is talking about voting.) As CGP Grey put it, the territories are the only place in the _universe_ where US citizens lose their voting rights based on geography - move anywhere else on Earth, or go into space, and you can generally cast an absentee ballot in your state of last residence. ---
**Author:** ![Cold\_Dish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cold\_Dish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cold_Dish)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/37 "2016-08-19T14:40:53Z")
Fat people. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/38 "2016-08-19T16:52:34Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Not robots. People who _fuck_ robots. More power to 'em. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/39 "2016-08-19T17:48:49Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Even that seems like a minor barrier. Being an out atheist in the workplace outside of certain sectors can easily be an obstacle to promotion. An assistant manager for a pizza place I worked in told me to my face in front of 4 witnesses that I was ineligible for raises or promotion due to the fact i was not christian. He is now a district manager over about 20 stores. When I filed a complaint with then local HR I was told it will be handled… my schedule slowly whittled down to 1 shift a week from 4. I found another job. Most of the sales force at another job were very religious and refused to interact with me until threats of disciplinary action against them forced them to play nice. I have had a dozen times at job sites in my current employment (onsite tech) where customers and their office staff talked about how atheists should have no rights, be taken out to the edge of town and shot/tossed in a ditch, jailed, etc. Discrimination against atheists is alive and well,and in my experience, more openly expresssed than racism. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Lebodnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@Mr.Lebodnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Lebodnik)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-2050-who-is-the-group-struggling-for-recognition-now/763189/40 "2016-08-19T17:54:48Z")
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