# "It's a clean sweep!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865 "2004-03-01T05:11:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/21 "2004-03-01T12:05:45Z")
> [@](#): > > People are moving to New Zealand just to be thanked! šŸ˜ƒ My friends and I had an Oscar party. Weā€™re all huge LotR fans, so, as you can imagine, it was a great night. šŸ†’ Iā€™d picked Bill Murray to win Best Actor, and would have liked Keisha Castle-Hughes to win Best Actress, but that was always a long shot. And now, off to bedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/22 "2004-03-01T12:18:06Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > Eww. That was awful. On the contrary, it was wonderful and well deserved. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/23 "2004-03-01T13:51:45Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > On the contrary, it was wonderful and well deserved. I think this was referring to the awkward grammar in the OPā€™s original phrasing of the question, not the issue itself. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/24 "2004-03-01T13:56:49Z")
> [@Truth Seeker](#): > > The only award LOTR _shouldnā€™t_ have won was ā€œBest Original Screenplay.ā€ šŸ˜‰ Youā€™re right, which is why Sofia Coppola won it. šŸ˜ƒ It DID deserve, and win, best Adapted Screenplay! Iā€™m on Cloud 9. Iā€™ve tried to go to sleep several times and Iā€™m still full of nervous energy. I cried and whoooped myself out last night. Never before has one of my favorite films won so many awards, and never Best Picture. I still like Fellowship best, but I do consider this BP a win for the entire trilogy. I will never again be this happy watching an Oscar broadcast. I was 21/24 in my predictions (missing Documentary and shorts) and I predicted a clean sweep for ROTK, but I didnā€™t believe it in my heart. It was just wishful thinking. Sometimes wishes come true. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/25 "2004-03-01T14:18:16Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > Well, here I go again: The scientific and technical awards were given out at a separate ceremony on February 14. Individual films are not nominated for scientific and technical awards. Art direction and makeup are artistic awards, not technical awards. Sorry. I knew it wasnā€™t the right term, but it was past my bedtime, and I couldnā€™t wake my brain cells up enough to pummel the right word out of them. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/26 "2004-03-01T14:36:00Z")
> [@Truth Seeker](#): > > So whatā€™s the total over all three films? Thatā€™s got to be a record in itself. Total for all three is 17: FOTR got 4 (Cinematography, Visual Effects, Makeup, & Music) anf TT got 2 (Sound Editing & Visual Effects). The previous record for a movie trilogy was 9 for the Godfather movies. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/27 "2004-03-01T14:41:07Z")
Itā€™s about time we got some love, isnā€™t it? Fanboys unite! We have nothing to lose except the respects of the mundanes! ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/28 "2004-03-01T14:42:08Z")
> [@](#): > > It DID deserve, and win, best Adapted Screenplay! Heavy emphasis on the word ā€œadaptedā€. [sigh] However, one can hardly quibble with the best director award, even if it does represent recognition for the Trilogy as a whole; itā€™s damn near impossible to imagine directing movies with the scope these had. And the siege of Minas Tirith, even if historically inaccurate in some aspects, was well filmed; gotta love the usage of medeival seige weaponry, especially with the perspective offered. ---
**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/29 "2004-03-01T14:47:08Z")
d all the nerds in the house go ā€œWOOā€! (Myself, of course, included). Well done, Jackson and Co. Does anyone know what was with the blue lapel pins the LOTR folks were wearing? Was it just to show solidarity or was there some larger message? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/30 "2004-03-01T14:47:12Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > I think this was referring to the awkward grammar in the OPā€™s original phrasing of the question, not the issue itself. Ah, my bad. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/31 "2004-03-01T15:21:29Z")
How many of the voters were around in 1977 and maybe thus felt guilty that Star Wars didnā€™t win? ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/32 "2004-03-01T15:31:27Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > And the siege of Minas Tirith, even if historically inaccurate in some aspects, was well filmed; gotta love the usage of medeival seige weaponry, especially with the perspective offered. Historically inaccurate? Dude, you got _Lord of the Rings_ out of the ā€˜historyā€™ section at the bookstore? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/33 "2004-03-01T15:33:08Z")
The pins come from [theonering.net](http://theonering.net) (TORN). [http://www.badalijewelry.com/oscarpins.htm](http://www.badalijewelry.com/oscarpins.htm) Iā€™ve heard the term ā€œcraftā€ for Sound Editing, FX, make-up, etc. brian ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/34 "2004-03-01T16:18:01Z")
Since Andrew Lesnie won an Oscar for cinemenatography for FOTR (and I canā€™t believe he wasnā€™t nominated for ROTK), that means that pretty much everybody on the crew has a statue on their mantle. The Visual Effects guys got 3. No love for the actors, though; only Ian McKellan was nominated (for FOTR), and got hosed. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/35 "2004-03-01T16:21:48Z")
Has that hilarious video that opened the awards (putting Billy Crystal into key scenes of movies) been posted anywhere online yet? It went by too fast and I want to see it again, especially the bit with Michael Moore! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/36 "2004-03-01T16:38:56Z")
Why are so many of you so extatic about this? Iā€™m a big LOTR fan but it was just the Oscars. Sure itā€™s interesting that it won so many awards but remember so did Titanic and that was the biggest load of gash ever put on film. I appreciate the film, itā€™s great, but the awards are merely a bit of light entertainment for me. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/37 "2004-03-01T17:06:50Z")
I canā€™t speak for anyone else, but hereā€™s why Iā€™m ecstatic: I feel like a proud parent, whose child has just won an award. I feel some weird kind of ownership over these films, and have ever since that day, 7 years ago, when I first saw a post on the Coming Attractions web site that some kind of Tolkien film was rumored to be in the works. Iā€™ve been watching their progress, almost daily, ever since. Last night was the culmination of that. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/38 "2004-03-01T17:18:23Z")
I believe this is only the second time a sequel won Best Picture. (First, The Godfather, Part II) And, its the first time the third in a series won. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/39 "2004-03-01T17:20:37Z")
Hear, hear, **jsc1953**. Same for me. In the earliest days of the beginning of the filming, I felt like a lone and lonely geek, the only person I knew who was excited about the movies, and who checked online constantly for bits of news and spy pictures. Now the whole world knows about Peter Jackson and company and I feel a little like I was part of it all (although I know I wasnā€™t). But seeing the TORn ā€œgood luckā€ pin PJ was wearing last night contributed to that feeling, because Iā€™m a rabid TORn reader. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2004, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865/40 "2004-03-01T21:01:31Z")
Mercifully, [The Great Nerd Riots of 2004](http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031227) were successfully avoided last night. Nerds everywhere [put down their 20 sided dice](http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20040301) and celebrated peacefully, the only notable disturbances coming from New Zealand webmasters hurriedly putting together ā€œAll Your Oscars Are Belong to Usā€ flash animations. šŸ˜ƒ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-clean-sweep/231865.md?page=3)