# It's a Pretty Lame Protest if No One Gets Upset

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186 "2017-09-24T16:38:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/121 "2017-09-25T04:32:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Comments section. That’s a mighty scientific way of gauging public opinion.
> 
> Some reason you couldn’t LINK to the article?

Laziness…and I don’t know how to do it on this thing…

But seriously…if a buttload of people think this protesting is a GOOD thing…well…why the hell aren’t they commenting how the Bengals are a bunch of racist assholes or something?

Are liberals afraid to comment on a yahoo article? Is Yahoo secretly Fox news only read by conservative assholes?

I’m seeing this a lot. At least once a week. Almost daily. There will be some article that is definitely pro liberal / anti Trump.

And most of the time for most of the articles…the comments are overwhelming in the opposite corner (anti liberal / pro Trump). And I don’t mean 60/40. I mean more like 95/5.

Which tells me the media is living in a bubble/echo chamber.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/122 "2017-09-25T04:42:50Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Laziness…and I don’t know how to do it on this thing…
> 
> But seriously…if a buttload of people think this protesting is a GOOD thing…well…why the hell aren’t they commenting how the Bengals are a bunch of racist assholes or something?
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> Are liberals afraid to comment on a yahoo article? Is Yahoo secretly Fox news only read by conservative assholes?
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> I’m seeing this a lot. At least once a week. Almost daily. There will be some article that is definitely pro liberal / anti Trump.
> 
> And most of the time for most of the articles…the comments are overwhelming in the opposite corner (anti liberal / pro Trump). And I don’t mean 60/40. I mean more like 95/5.
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> Which tells me the media is living in a bubble/echo chamber.

Try looking at the newest comments rather than the top comments. There’s a mix.  
The top comments are only the most voted for. Of course the Right has to pack the ballot box to “win”.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/123 "2017-09-25T04:50:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Try looking at the newest comments rather than the top comments. There’s a mix.  
> The top comments are only the most voted for. Of course the Right has to pack the ballot box to “win”.

I’m just telling you what I am seeing. You can interpret it or explain it anyway you want.

But note this. Reading around here you’d have gotten the impression that almost no one here would vote for Trump. Most posters here couldn’t even imagine someone important in their life voting for Trump.

Trump got about half the votes and actually won.

Echo chambers are a misleading and dangerous thing.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/124 "2017-09-25T05:00:23Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I’m just telling you what I am seeing. You can interpret it or explain it anyway you want.
> 
> But note this. Reading around here you’d have gotten the impression that almost no one here would vote for Trump. Most posters here couldn’t even imagine someone important in their life voting for Trump.
> 
> Trump got about half the votes and actually won.
> 
> Echo chambers are a misleading and dangerous thing.

You don’t understand that the posts with the most votes are all at the top? If you view in the order of posting , you’ll see a different story.

Moron.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/125 "2017-09-25T05:01:12Z")

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I think none of us imagined that so many people would be stupid enough to vote for Trump.

But you proved us wrong. It turns out you guys are a lot stupider than we thought you were.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/126 "2017-09-25T05:05:20Z")

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And so many! Who had the patience to teach them how to fuck?

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/127 "2017-09-25T05:10:15Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Personally I HATE professional sports and I hope this is the shit that crumbles that crappy empire of greedy capitalists and worthless people that do almost nothing to further society in any measurable way.

A splendid truth.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/128 "2017-09-25T05:12:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You don’t understand that the posts with the most votes are all at the top? If you view in the order of posting , you’ll see a different story.
> 
> Moron.

Votes…elections…hmmmm…sensing a trend here…are liberals too stupid to up vote the comments THEY like?

I’ve looked at it both ways btw.

Go look for yourself. I don’t care if you guys misread what’s going on. Hell, it will make my day for the next few election cycles.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/129 "2017-09-25T05:17:04Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Votes…elections…hmmmm…sensing a trend here…are liberals too stupid to up vote the comments THEY like?
> 
> I’ve looked at it both ways btw.
> 
> Go look for yourself. I don’t care if you guys misread what’s going on. Hell, it will make my day for the next few election cycles.

Better watch out, your inner Trump is showing.  
Maybe liberals aren’t desperate to drown out dissension.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/130 "2017-09-25T05:20:17Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Better watch out, your inner Trump is showing.  
> Maybe liberals aren’t desperate to drown out dissension.

Or maybe liberals can’t even be bothered to vote on an online article comment.

Those comments are telling a story. Of course the details are messy. But that kind of hand waving dismissive shit is what cost the liberals this last election.

Just saying.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/131 "2017-09-25T05:25:04Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Or maybe liberals can’t even be bothered to vote on an online article comment.
> 
> Those comments are telling a story. Of course the details are messy. But that kind of hand waving dismissive shit is what cost the liberals this last election.
> 
> Just saying.

You’re the idiot that claimed all the comments were pro-Trump. Typical lyin’ sTrumpet.  
Can’t win without cheating.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/132 "2017-09-25T05:26:53Z")

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There are veterans who support the protest. Do those who oppose the protest rail against them for disrespect after their service? Or during?

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/133 "2017-09-25T05:28:47Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Do you understand that the thought of not being reminded of politics is nearly impossible, since politics is tied up in every aspect of our lives?

Very Leninist.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/134 "2017-09-25T06:08:53Z")

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Well, that **SnoBo** for ya, right there! You know, that whole “throw shit in the quarry” thing is code for liquidating the industrial bourgeoisie by the proletariat under the leadership of the revolutionary cadres.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/135 "2017-09-25T12:16:52Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> What is insincere about it?
> 
> I explained my thought process. I explained my feelings. Hell, I even said I didn’t intend to come off as strong as I did. And I have made a point that it was not personally aimed at you in particular.
> 
> But, yeah, you pull some IMO bullshit protest at the flag I’m gonna think you are probably a wanker who either has a bullshit agenda or has not really thought this through or both.
> 
> Now, that does not in my book make you evil incarnate. Hell, we might still even be friends. But on this issue you are still a wanker in my book.
> 
> And you fucking ASKED in the first place.
> 
> Good grief.
> 
> Is English not your native language?

The irony is, of course, that you demand people give the National Anthem respect, yet you cannot treat a fellow American with any kind of civility (to say nothing of respect).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/136 "2017-09-25T12:42:13Z")

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On the bright side, Christmas is coming so once Trump supporters get bored with being outraged about a fairly benign protest it’ll be time to be outraged over people saying “Happy Holidays!” to them.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/137 "2017-09-25T12:42:16Z")

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I’m a veteran and I think this kind of peaceful protesting is in keeping with the highest traditions of patriotism and American history. Some of the most important and greatest patriots were spat upon and called un-American in their day – Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King Jr., Vietnam War protesters, Jackie Robinson (who in his autobiography stated that he could not in good conscience stand for the flag and anthem any more) and many more. Their contributions to the country were far greater than many of those who called them un-American.

When I think about the struggles and trials of this country, including some events in my own military service history, I get choked up too. When I think about the fact that many Americans don’t see the country living up to its ideals in fair and equal treatment, that chokes me up and makes me angry. No supposed disrespect to a symbol can possibly come close to matching the dishonor and harm to the country that so many Americans still truly feel that they don’t have a fair and equal chance to succeed. People should be mad about this. If flag and anthem protests are what it takes to get people talking and thinking about it, then those protests are indeed an honorable form of patriotism.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/138 "2017-09-25T12:52:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> On the bright side, Christmas is coming so once Trump supporters get bored with being outraged about a fairly benign protest it’ll be time to be outraged over people saying “Happy Holidays!” to them.

If that bothers them they can just wear their America Uber Alles hats. Significantly fewer people should be inclined to offer Christmas salutations that way.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/139 "2017-09-25T14:38:38Z")

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Personally I’ve got nothing against protesters in general but I am sick and tired of protesters ramming their protest agenda down the throats of decent hardworking Americans like me. I don’t care if they want to protest in the privacy of their own homes but it’s disgusting how they go around flaunting their protesting in public like it’s perfectly normal.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-pretty-lame-protest-if-no-one-gets-upset/797186/140 "2017-09-25T15:56:20Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m a veteran and I think this kind of peaceful protesting is in keeping with the highest traditions of patriotism and American history.

I am also a veteran and agree with this wholeheartedly. I wonder if any of the people who say “It disrespects veterans!” have actually asked any veterans if they feel disrespected?

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