# It's a stupid frog and a song by Paul Williams with stupid lyrics. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 16, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220 "2011-07-16T03:50:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/1 "2011-07-16T03:50:09Z")
Why is it so great? [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jSFLZ-MzIhM/hqdefault.jpg "Muppet Movie - The Rainbow Connection") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM) The stupid frog did it better than freakin’ Willie Nelson. ---
**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/2 "2011-07-16T04:24:29Z")
Kermit? You are spitting hostility at KERMIT? You may not like the song – it is pretty silly in that 70’s pop-song kind of way – but how can you hate on Kermit the Frog? Much less go to the trouble of starting a thread about it? Sheesh, man. ---
**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/3 "2011-07-16T04:34:48Z")
Someday we’ll find it, the Rainbow Connection. The lovers, the dreamers, and MEEEEEEEEEE! ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/4 "2011-07-16T04:45:09Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Why is it so great? Opinions vary? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/5 "2011-07-16T06:06:05Z")
I love that song. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/6 "2011-07-16T06:52:26Z")
It’s sappy and sentimental, but it’s perfect for Kermit and captures the Muppets at their most quiet and reflective. In context, it works beautifully. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/7 "2011-07-16T07:47:42Z")
Picture it. Darkened theater in 1979, opening weekend of The Muppet Movie. My parents, me, my stepsister in a full, quiet, crowd. Everyone is taken in by the opening song. My dad, who worked second shift and had never been home to see The Muppet Show, didn’t really get what was going on. Nifty camera work, enjoyable opening song, camera gets down to swamp level and starts to zoom in on the banjo player. Closeup of Kermit. My dad yells: “IT’S A GODDAMNED FROG!!!” Hilarity ensues. I’ll love it forever just for that memory. I was 9 years old. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/8 "2011-07-16T09:51:45Z")
Movin’ right along, chickaboom chickaboom, footloose and fancy free! Getting there is half the fun, come share it with me. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/9 "2011-07-16T10:04:05Z")
For those that are interested, here are a [couple](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHHfR7lJaMI) of [videos](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrDLhNSa37E) of Jim Henson and Frank Oz on location scouts for the Muppet Movie, and doing shooting tests with Fozzie, Kermit, and Miss Piggy. A couple of the improvised conversations actually inspired dialogue for the finished movie. ---
**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/10 "2011-07-16T11:26:21Z")
If you’re a YouTube fan, do a search for “Hurt Kermit”, it isn’t made by Henson Associates, but its still pretty moving, for me anyway. I can’t do YouTube myself lately, the internet pipe I’ve chosen to pay for is just too narrow. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/11 "2011-07-16T12:40:16Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > For those that are interested, here are a [couple](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHHfR7lJaMI) of [videos](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrDLhNSa37E) of Jim Henson and Frank Oz on location scouts for the Muppet Movie, and doing shooting tests with Fozzie, Kermit, and Miss Piggy. A couple of the improvised conversations actually inspired dialogue for the finished movie. I’ve always loved the “not a real bear” bit in their back-and-forth during the camera tests. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/12 "2011-07-16T16:23:14Z")
Interesting to me that most of the posts refer to “Kermit” singing Rainbow Connection, not Jim Henson. And therein lies the magic. Kermit is one of those characters who makes it effortless to suspend disbelief. He’s clearly felt and ping pong balls, and in entertainment of lesser quality one’s mind couldn’t get past that. We’d end up mocking him like the rubber suited monsters in an MST3K movie. But Kermit defies all of that by being his wonderful self, and ends up seeming just as real as any person. Jim Henson knew this, and it’s part of why he was a genius. I remember reading an interview with Alice Cooper where he described the experience of being on the Muppet Show, and he hit on exactly this point. He completely accepted that Kermit was just Kermit without even thinking about it. In between takes he’d be talking to Kermit about the scene, and then step back and think, “I’m talking to a guy’s hand!” ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/13 "2011-07-17T03:29:00Z")
But the rainbow has a beard! Whaw! Whaw-whaw! Whaw-wow-wow-wow. Whaw! Wugga-wugga-wugga! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/14 "2011-07-17T04:36:38Z")
> [@Mach Tuck](#): > > Interesting to me that most of the posts refer to “Kermit” singing Rainbow Connection, not Jim Henson. And therein lies the magic. Et cetera. I wept when Jim Henson died because of this. Kermit and Rowlf had been part of my life for…forever. They weren’t puppets. They were as real as any person on TV. It didn’t matter if the person was an actor playing a character or a performer playing himself. But the second guy to play Kermit sucked balls. Almost as much as when Mel Blanc’s kid tried to do Bugs Bunny. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/15 "2011-07-17T05:43:02Z")
I LOVE that song! (Sarah McLachlan does an awesome cover, btw) ---
**Author:** ![janis\_and\_c0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janis_and_c0/32/21_2.png) [@janis\_and\_c0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janis_and_c0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-a-stupid-frog-and-a-song-by-paul-williams-with-stupid-lyrics/589220/16 "2011-07-19T15:04:50Z")
I heard a story that after Jim died, NPR played an interview with him. The commentator apologized for the sound quality of the clip. The sound guy had miked Kermit instead of Jim.