# It's all about FREEDOM, people......... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316 "2003-04-12T20:45:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/41 "2003-04-14T05:47:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \* > \*\*Since this is your first post on the SDMB, let me explain to you the importance of ‘post discipline’. > > See, you could write the most brilliant post in the history of the SDMB. You could solve hunger, fix the Palestinian problem, and solve Fermat’s theorem all in the same post. > > But if you then add something a little shaky or silly at the end of that glorious missive, all the good stuff will be completely ignored, and the one bad sentence at the end will be seized upon by your opponents to show how ‘stupid’ you are. > > You had a good point about Iraqi freedom. It DOES take away the moral case against war when the people you are invading are cheering and kissing you. > > Should have left it at that. \*\* You had a good point about “post discipline”. A _stupid_ assertion tacked on to the end can ruin the entire post. Should’ve left it that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/42 "2003-04-14T10:53:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > \*\*Hi! > > Your name doesn’t happen to be Jean Teasdale, does it? \*\* No references to Garfield, Beanie Babies or chocolate. This sounds more like hubby Rick. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/43 "2003-04-14T14:54:16Z")
Yeah, and after hubby Rick has had his usual post-work snootful and discovered upon returning to the apartment that Jean has purchased yet another “too cute” Hummel figurine. Talk about displacement! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/44 "2003-04-14T15:04:39Z")
> [@](#): > > GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT— OR— GET A COUNTRY!!! is a slap in the face to anyone who loves his country enough to do something about it. The only thing I take away from that statement is the firm knowlege that not only does this moron not vote, but would gladly end the process of voting on the principle that we must completely love our country or leave. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/45 "2003-04-14T18:39:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \* > \*\*Not in Orange County, where I work! (O.C. = “Reagan Country” = “Behind the Orange Curtain”) > > Oh, and you can’t go to Cuba. \*\* Ah, well. At least we have [Jim](http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/03/29/lost-washburn.php) [Washburn](http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/03/30/lost-washburn.php). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/46 "2003-04-14T18:58:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Already in Use \* > \*\*Is there anything that _isn’t_ made funnier if you imagine it being said by Richard Simmons? \*\* Let’s see: “Perhaps you don’t remember-we had wild monkey sex last night.” Definitely NOT funny! ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/47 "2003-04-14T19:13:37Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by Guinastasia_ > > Let’s see: > > “Perhaps you don’t remember-we had wild monkey sex last night.” > > Definitely NOT funny! It’s very funny if you inagine you are listening to Richard Simmons say it to someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/48 "2003-04-14T20:35:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 2trew \* > \*\*“Hi, I’m your new roommate!” > > Not funny at all. \*\* It’s funny if he’s saying it to Pat Buchanan. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/49 "2003-04-14T21:25:14Z")
Right now, I’m _so_ glad I have an office to myself. I don’t have to explain to anyone just why I’m convulsed with laughter. I say combine **Guin** ’s and **Mockingbird** ’s ideas. The thought of Richard Simmons saying, “Perhaps you don’t remember-we had wild monkey sex last night,” is even _more_ funny if you imagine him saying it to Pat Buchanan. ---
**Author:** ![cartfanhef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a5b964/32.png) [@cartfanhef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cartfanhef)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/50 "2003-04-15T01:41:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Tropical Warlord \* > \*\*And California’s spelled with a ‘C’, dipshit. \*\* I know how to spell 'C’alifornia, ya bonehead. I was taking a shot at all the Hollywood lefties… they=liberals=commies=CA spelled with a “K”=the word looking Russian…get it…? ah, never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/51 "2003-04-15T01:42:47Z")
SIMMONS BLESS BUCHANAN…AND, BUCHANAN, BLESS SIMMONS. _“You’re faaat! Move those thighs! Come on, work with me, Pat!” “DEMON!”_ ---
**Author:** ![cartfanhef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a5b964/32.png) [@cartfanhef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cartfanhef)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/52 "2003-04-15T02:29:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\*I supported this war, albeit reluctantly, for reasons I’ve given elsewhere. And I think you have every right, **cartfanhef** , to be pleased at what this country did to remove Saddam Hussein, and be proud of our President for having done it. > > That said, this sticks in my craw: > > Any person with as little concept of what the freedoms for which this country stands as to say something like this – well, I certainly can’t say that they should find another one, now, can I? > > But AFAIK your next post should be an essay on why opposition to the Administration in office at a given moment is a valuable right that Americans take all too lightly – good men have given their lives to preserve that right. \*\* Holy smokes!! Looks like I really tapped a liberal nerve on this board, didnt I? OK…My comment about “GET A COUNTRY” was aimed mainly at the Barbra Streisands and others in Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large. Of course I dont think that everyone has to love “W”, or pack your bags. Im just so sick of hearing them rant and rave against the leadership in this country and using their celebrity and position to spout all the time. Of course the liberal media is all too willing to help them shove THEIR views down our throat, but what about us common folk? All we get are message boards like this… Like my original message said, I hope this finds its way onto Bab’s laptop or PC. Especially hers, because I remember back in 92 she threatened to move out of the country if George Sr. won again. Well Babs, does that offer still stand now that Jr. is in??? HMMMM??? Sure wish it did! The way those Hollywood lefties cover for their own but jump all over the GOP for the smallest things ticks me off. Case in point; They find nothing wrong with that immoral slob Clinton dragging the Presidency into the mud…“What the President does in his personal life is none of our business.”…But let Clarence Thomas mention something about a pubic hair on a can of Coke, or some such BS, and theres hell to pay!! Anita Hill made sure of that. So thats my view of those jackasses in Hollywood, for what its worth… So chill people. As far as the rioting and looting going on over there now, its truly a bummer that has to happen, but dont blame this administration and our military campaign for that behavior. Its human nature, at its ugliest. Just think what kind of behavior would be going on over HERE if we had just been freed from some sort of oppression or dictatorship after 24 , or however many years…(hey, does 8 years under Clinton count…? Nah, I wont go there…) Heck, we’re bad enough in our major cities just after our teams win some sporting championship, forcryinoutloud! So if you thought I meant EVERYONE had to love W, or get a country, youre wrong. Just do me favor…if you know Barbras email addy , send this to her. CCCCCYA ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/53 "2003-04-15T03:25:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cartfanhef \* > \*\*OK…My comment about “GET A COUNTRY” was aimed mainly at the Barbra Streisands and others in Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large. Of course I dont think that everyone has to love “W”, or pack your bags. Im just so sick of hearing them rant and rave against the leadership in this country and using their celebrity and position to spout all the time. \*\* Would you have a problem with them speaking out if they agreed with you? Personally, I don’t give a good goddam what any celebrity has to say, but apparently other people do, else the question “What do you think about the war?” would never be asked of them. They do not have any sort of “responsibility” to support the current administration, or its actions. > [@](#): > > \*\*Of course the liberal media is all too willing to help them shove THEIR views down our throat, but what about us common folk? All we get are message boards like this… \*\* And FOXNews. If you enjoy seeing celebrities getting their “comeuppance” for voicing ant-war views, try seeing if you can track down video of the so-called interview with Jeneane Garaffolo on Fox and Friends. > [@](#): > > \*\*Case in point; They find nothing wrong with that immoral slob Clinton dragging the Presidency into the mud…“What the President does in his personal life is none of our business.”… \*\* You must have been in a cave on Mars humming loudly with your fingers stuffed in your ears if you think Clinton got no criticism for the Lewinksy scandal. > [@](#): > > \*\*But let Clarence Thomas mention something about a pubic hair on a can of Coke, or some such BS, and theres hell to pay!! Anita Hill made sure of that. So thats my view of those jackasses in Hollywood, for what its worth… So chill people. \*\* Yeah! What the hell was her problem anyway? Sexual harassment is something that should stay quietly swept under the rug, especially when a man is up for nomination. :rolleyes: : > [@](#): > > \*\*As far as the rioting and looting going on over there now, its truly a bummer that has to happen, but dont blame this administration and our military campaign for that behavior. Its human nature, at its ugliest. \*\* I do blame the administration, who should have been aware that this would happen, and prepared to deal with it. Anything else is sheer irresponsibility. > [@](#): > > \*\* Just think what kind of behavior would be going on over HERE if we had just been freed from some sort of oppression or dictatorship after 24 , or however many years…(hey, does 8 years under Clinton count…? Nah, I wont go there…) \*\* Oh, for the love of Christ . . . > [@](#): > > \*\* Heck, we’re bad enough in our major cities just after our teams win some sporting championship, forcryinoutloud! > So if you thought I meant EVERYONE had to love W, or get a country, youre wrong. \*\* Turning over cars and running around in the streets cheering is somewhat different from smashing a museum to bits. > [@](#): > > \*\*Just do me favor…if you know Barbras email addy , send this to her. > > CCCCCYA \*\* Why? Think Babs needs a good chuckle? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/54 "2003-04-16T01:33:55Z")
Good god, you’re an idiot, **cartfanhef**. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/55 "2003-04-16T04:18:47Z")
The reason anything with a C is spelled with a K in Russian is because of the Cyrillic alphabet, dipshit. And when you do it to make people look like commies, all you end up doing is making yourself look like a moronic conspiracy nut. Bored. NEXT! ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/56 "2003-06-26T18:59:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cartfanhef \* > \*\*they=liberals=commies=CA spelled with a “K”=the word looking Russian…get it…? > ah, never mind. \*\* You mean, like “CCCP?” So, you think liberal = “commie?” Wow, here I always figured I was a liberal even though I didn’t think communism was truly viable in the long term, and I was a communist, all along! Thanks for setting me straight. Oh, did you know “cartfanhef” = dipshit? It does. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/57 "2003-06-26T23:04:58Z")
I just wonder how **cartfanhef** feels about those “joyful” Iraqis taking their daily potshots at American troops these days. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/58 "2003-06-26T23:19:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cartfanhef \* > \*\*S.H. > Central Calif. \*\* Lemme guess… Bakersfield? ---
**Author:** ![king\_of\_spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7cd45c/32.png) [@king\_of\_spain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/king_of_spain)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/59 "2003-06-27T00:15:28Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by cartfanhef \* > \*\* Did this military campaign go by the name “Operation Iraqi Oil”? NO! It was “Operation Iraqi Freedom”._\* “Does the department go by the name ‘Ministry of War’? NO! It’s the ‘Ministry of _Peace!_’” What a tool. I know plenty of intelligent conservatives, Sparky, and you’re making them look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316/60 "2003-06-27T00:27:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*I already have my own country! Can I still comment then? \*\* No. Because it’s little and unimportant. If you were from, say…Japan, or Botswanna or someplace that people _cared_ about, that’d be a whole diff’rent story. GD&R 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-all-about-freedom-people/168316.md?page=4)