# It's already time to think about giving up on COD Black Ops for Sanity's sake.

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488 "2010-12-01T00:00:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/1 "2010-12-01T00:00:36Z")

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For the first week or two it was good. Relatively free from frustration. I had one day where I spent hours playing the game. I’m not the best player of online shoot-em-ups in the world but I had managed to get to about level 39 with a 1.36 K/D.

That may not sound like much, but for me it’s good. I can usually expect around 0.8 for a new game.

But I think the good days of BO are gone. If you’re riddling a guy with bullets as he _slowly_… nonchalantly… walks away, and then he turns round, jumps in the air, and puts ONE bullet into you, and you die, and he runs away… _and this is normal_… It might be time to quit.

\<sigh\> It was good for the few days it lasted.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/2 "2010-12-01T00:57:11Z")

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I gave up on online FPSes years ago for this very reason, along with people who take it all _way_ too seriously (including booting players who aren’t “good enough”) and the fact that unless you start playing it the microsecond its released, you’re going to be way behind all the people that know every nook, cranny, power-up, and 1-pixel-wide sniping vantage point.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/3 "2010-12-01T00:58:36Z")

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What did you like about Codblops? From your posts, you seem to really like your stats. The considerably-better-in-every-way Bad Company 2 has some crazy stat tracking.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/4 "2010-12-01T01:42:51Z")

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I do have Bad Company 2. And I do like it. I might just go back to playing it. I stopped playing it for a while to play MW2 and COD-BO. You see, in MW2 I was trying out a new strategy and got quite ‘into’ it.

I wouldn’t call BC2 better in every way. I’d say it’s just _different_. COD games are frustration interspersed with occasional joy. BC2 is a steady flow of enjoyment. In other words COD games are ‘up and down’ (more down than up) and BC2 is ‘level’. For that reason I can easilly get bored if I’ve played BC2 for a while (as I actually did, to move to the cod games for a bit)

But as I say, given the frustration of black ops I might try out BC2 again (or give up on online fps altogether)

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/5 "2010-12-01T14:26:26Z")

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You should play hardcore if you get frustrated by having to shoot someone a million times before they die. On hardcore, one or two shots and the guy’s down every time. Once it’s unlocked, that’s the only game type I’ll play.

Of course, sometimes you run into what happened to me last night - got a five kill streak so I got a care package. It lands, woohoo! A chopper gunner. I go over and start to grab it when _my own teammate_ shoots me and takes it. Fucking asshole. To be fair, in three years of playing COD games online I think this is probably the first time it’s ever happened to me, but man it pissed me off.

1.36 is a really good k/d, at least as far as the 360 is concerned. I’m currently level 38 (I think) and I’m only at 1.12.

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**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/6 "2010-12-01T16:05:28Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> The considerably-better-in-every-way Bad Company 2 has some crazy stat tracking.

And has new maps available today. Can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/7 "2010-12-01T16:06:44Z")

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By the way, does Black Ops multiplayer have the multitude of glitches that plagued MW2 for the longest time?

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/8 "2010-12-01T16:26:03Z")

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Few games are as frustrating as CODBlops Multiplayer, that’s for sure.

So you’re playing the Nuketown map. Oh how cute, it’s the Brady Bunch house. Uh oh, the enemy got an attack helicopter. BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. Why the flying fuck does it not let me respawn under cover?!?!# BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. FUCK FUCK FUCK BZZZT dead. Respawn. BZZZT dead. Respawn. Final killcam.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/9 "2010-12-01T16:28:59Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> You should play hardcore if you get frustrated by having to shoot someone a million times before they die. On hardcore, one or two shots and the guy’s down every time. Once it’s unlocked, that’s the only game type I’ll play.
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> Of course, sometimes you run into what happened to me last night - got a five kill streak so I got a care package. It lands, woohoo! A chopper gunner. I go over and start to grab it when _my own teammate_ shoots me and takes it. Fucking asshole. To be fair, in three years of playing COD games online I think this is probably the first time it’s ever happened to me, but man it pissed me off.
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> 1.36 is a really good k/d, at least as far as the 360 is concerned. I’m currently level 38 (I think) and I’m only at 1.12.

Hardcore is fun, but people camp HARD.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/10 "2010-12-01T18:27:10Z")

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In hardcore you can’t watch killcams to detect aimbots

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/11 "2010-12-01T23:05:53Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> In hardcore you can’t watch killcams to detect aimbots

I’ve never seen an aimbot.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/12 "2010-12-01T23:08:25Z")

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You can spot aimbots in hardcore because the botter is the only player that’s moving.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/13 "2010-12-02T02:23:27Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I’ve never seen an aimbot.

You can tell by the way the person’s reticle tracks his enemy (you, or in the case of the final killcam - you or someone else) through solid objects. It stays focused perfectly on the target the whole time up to the shot.

Even when that’s not the case, you can _just tell_.

Sometimes one player will mention it - and five or so other players will respond in a “yeah we know” kind of way (although I reserve judgement in those situations - more often than people realize or like to admit - the person being accused of wallhacking or aimbotting is simply a really good player or really good at using the UAV)

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/14 "2010-12-02T02:29:49Z")

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**Least Original User Name Ever** plays on the Xbox, which is devoid of cheaters compared to the PC version of the game.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/15 "2010-12-02T04:54:31Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> **Least Original User Name Ever** plays on the Xbox, which is devoid of cheaters compared to the PC version of the game.

This is correct. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen videos of aimbots, so I know what they’re capable of, but I’ve never seen one in the wild.

Scratch that. I think I saw one or two in Halo 2.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/16 "2010-12-02T05:15:11Z")

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I sold mine within a week of getting it, although probably not for the reason the OP sent it back.

I like single player the most and the campaign wasn’t driving me. I played it for four hours the first day and then didn’t touch it for the rest of the week, so I figured I’d sell it on Amazon while I still could.

I spent the money I got on Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood. Good purchase.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/17 "2010-12-02T14:17:23Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> This is correct. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen videos of aimbots, so I know what they’re capable of, but I’ve never seen one in the wild.

I’ve never seen it on Xbox, either. I hear accusations of “hacking” or “modded controllers” from time to time but I’ve almost never seen any of it in any demonstrable form. The closest I’ve seen are well known glitches like someone hiding inside a rock or something and they’re usually well known enough that people just stay away from that area.

A couple of weeks back, one guy was absolutely adamant that I had a “modded controller” because “there’s no way you could have shot me that fast!” Ummm…apparently there _is_ a way because I did it. I don’t even know how to mod a controller or what that would mean once it’s done.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/18 "2010-12-02T14:23:51Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I sold mine within a week of getting it, although probably not for the reason the OP sent it back.
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> I like single player the most and the campaign wasn’t driving me. I played it for four hours the first day and then didn’t touch it for the rest of the week, so I figured I’d sell it on Amazon while I still could.
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> I spent the money I got on Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood. Good purchase.

I know this is me beating a dead horse here, but I really don’t get what the allure of single-player campaigns are anymore. There’s no real longevity, no real replayability.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/19 "2010-12-02T14:41:31Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> A couple of weeks back, one guy was absolutely adamant that I had a “modded controller” because “there’s no way you could have shot me that fast!” Ummm…apparently there _is_ a way because I did it. I don’t even know how to mod a controller or what that would mean once it’s done.

Any idea what he even meant by “modded controller?” I’m struggling to figure out how you could alter a 360 controller for faster reactions. Or does “fast” mean rapidly like a turbo controller?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-already-time-to-think-about-giving-up-on-cod-black-ops-for-sanitys-sake/562488/20 "2010-12-02T15:00:30Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> Any idea what he even meant by “modded controller?” I’m struggling to figure out how you could alter a 360 controller for faster reactions. Or does “fast” mean rapidly like a turbo controller?

There are modded controllers that at like the old turbo controllers. You can tell when someone is firing a pistol at a million rounds a second or some other semi-automatic weapon. I pull the trigger pretty fast, and I’ve heard the “modded controller” excuse, but you can clearly tell when someone has [one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD2JavkbW1Y).

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